View Poll Results: Last two years beginning of a downward slide for Public Sector Unions?

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    14 19.18%
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah, that's why we shouldn't have sexual harrassment or labor laws or fair practices and standards. Hey; when you're rght you're right, you're right: you're just right.
    Sexual harassment laws have so much to do with my point its unbearable. If you want to know what I think of them, then I think they are cry baby bull**** 99.9% of the time.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Which is why we have unions to begin with; thanks for helping to make a case in point.
    So we have unions so people can assume loyalty has a meaning and instead of being involved in to better themselves they can instead demand and force the owners to do their bidding. Did I get it right? Or is it perhaps that has to do with their effectiveness and no so much why associations of workers exist. Hmmm..

    Well, the rumor is that the "free market" world isn't doing to well these days because the "free market" world had no protections (even for themselves) in place to keep anything bad froma happening: deregulation is God send - ain't it??
    Its appears to be working fine. What exactly isn't working? The only problem is that we aren't competitive and right now we just floating a bit on the fact of having more freedoms than china.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    *Yawn* The fact is that if they are paying you they can fire you if you cost too much and no amount of twenty-five years loyalty changes it either.
    If people are fine with getting paid $20 bucks a day for their work and living in poverty, then I am sure they will vote for those that wish to get rid of collective bargaining.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Sexual harassment laws have so much to do with my point its unbearable. If you want to know what I think of them, then I think they are cry baby bull**** 99.9% of the time.
    This does help explain why your party consistently gets less than 1% of the vote in presidential elections. Thanks for the reminder!
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If people are fine with getting paid $20 bucks a day for their work and living in poverty, then I am sure they will vote for those that wish to get rid of collective bargaining.
    I think its funny watching liberals like yourself go on and on about UHC but then at same time think the government will only pay them $20 a day.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I think its funny watching liberals like yourself go on and on about UHC but then at same time think the government will only pay them $20 a day.
    We don't have UHC do we? No, we have an insurance mandate that was proposed by the GOP as an alternative to UHC. And if you had read American history before we had unions, it wouldn't be quite as funny to you.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    So, I would say, apply my definition and then answer Haymarket's post and see what you get.
    I guess I fail to understand your ‘definition’ but maybe your overlooked the fact that I DID answer his post. Here is what I got:

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Thank you for a thoughtful answer. It is appreciated.
    Thanks for playing…

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    This does help explain why your party consistently gets less than 1% of the vote in presidential elections. Thanks for the reminder!
    Does it now? I like how you ran to voting numbers like that is worth anything to what we were talking about though.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We don't have UHC do we? No, we have an insurance mandate that was proposed by the GOP as an alternative to UHC.
    And that has to do with my point how exactly?

    And if you had read American history before we had unions, it wouldn't be quite as funny to you.
    No, it would still be funny since that doesn't have to do with point either.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Sexual harassment laws have so much to do with my point its unbearable. If you want to know what I think of them, then I think they are cry baby bull**** 99.9% of the time.
    That was an example of current laws in place to protect employees against uscrupulous emploerys: it was an exterme, but it made the point quite well. Collective bargaining protects employees against unscrupulous employers as well, ad said contracts tend to minimize an cheating employers desire to violate any of teh laws . . .

    Funny thing: I don't know why coservatives and Libertaians (yourself notwithstanding) think that "open carry" is good, but collective bargaining is bad . . .

    I just don't get that.
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