View Poll Results: Last two years beginning of a downward slide for Public Sector Unions?

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    true, it's more about " they have it, I want it, so i'll take it"
    the really amusing thing is watching those who lust for the wealth of others (or if they cannot have what I have, they want the government from preventing me from having it, which is why I call many of them economic vandals) spend so much time trying to pretend that their craven envy of others' success is based on a desire to actually help this country. ITs pathetic how they erect a facade of "patriotism" to hide their seething hatred of their own lack of success and the equally fervent hatred of the success of others.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That's the inherent contradiction in hard core Libertarianism. They don't want anarchy, but when you press on the specifics of an effective government, they don't want any of the things necessary to make the government effective.
    sort of like the left-they claim they want more government and more taxation but they never can say when there is too much government or what tax rates are Too high on OTHER people. After all, if you buy into the nonsense that government can solve problems, more government can solve more problems etc

    and if you buy into the nonsense that government can use MY money better than I can what is to stop you from advocating that government take ALL my money

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the really amusing thing is watching those who lust for the wealth of others (or if they cannot have what I have, they want the government from preventing me from having it, which is why I call many of them economic vandals) spend so much time trying to pretend that their craven envy of others' success is based on a desire to actually help this country. ITs pathetic how they erect a facade of "patriotism" to hide their seething hatred of their own lack of success and the equally fervent hatred of the success of others.
    Lol...know what man...your the biggest troll on this forum on this topic....if your serious, slashing your wrists would be a good option for you

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Lol...know what man...your the biggest troll on this forum on this topic....if your serious, slashing your wrists would be a good option for you
    whoa....

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Lol...know what man...your the biggest troll on this forum on this topic....if your serious, slashing your wrists would be a good option for you
    that would be if you're serious


    and I say what I believe is true-and yes I tire of the parasite mindset. I don't have any duty to continue to supply the pubic teat so the little public sector piggies can get fat and whine that we should feed them some more

    remember the old saying

    Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered

    and the public sector unions are hogs

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    whoa....
    People who are used to feeding at the public trough tend to get agitated when we suggest its time for them to find some food on their own

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    "When I first started teaching, I taught 38 children in my morning kindergarten and 39 in the afternoon class. At the time, this was a good assignment as many of my colleagues had 50 children in the morning and 50 children in the afternoon. Children were not provided with proper materials like textbooks, pencils, art supplies or access to music, art and gym teachers. Teachers routinely worked a second job to make ends meet.

    It was collective bargaining that changed some of these conditions. I will not list reasons why teaching is still not an easy paycheck. I’ll let the fact that 50 percent who try teaching leave the profession in their first six years make the argument for me.

    No doubt Mr. Feiwell also feels the grocery clerk, the auto assembly line worker, the actor, the writer, the baker, and on and on who do not do “hard labor” should not have unions either. The fact is, workers, no matter what their jobs, are subject to unjust working conditions and unfair compensation without the power that unions provide directly or indirectly.

    American workers in general can expect a 40-hour work week, weekends, vacation time and laws against child labor all because of unions. Indeed, America was able to build a strong middle class only because of the work of the labor movement.

    The current attack on public employee unions is an attack on the last stronghold of the labor movement. Only 11 percent of American workers are now unionized, many of these are public employees. The American electorate will have to decide if it is acceptable or not to undo the hard-won work of the Labor movement by voting for candidates who do or do not support the rights of the middle class.

    What we take for granted can be gone in a flash. Anything is possible in a democracy. That’s why it takes constant vigilance."

    Workers subject to unjust working conditions without unions: Sun News Letter to the Editor | cleveland.com
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "When I first started teaching, I taught 38 children in my morning kindergarten and 39 in the afternoon class. At the time, this was a good assignment as many of my colleagues had 50 children in the morning and 50 children in the afternoon. Children were not provided with proper materials like textbooks, pencils, art supplies or access to music, art and gym teachers. Teachers routinely worked a second job to make ends meet.

    It was collective bargaining that changed some of these conditions. I will not list reasons why teaching is still not an easy paycheck. I’ll let the fact that 50 percent who try teaching leave the profession in their first six years make the argument for me.

    No doubt Mr. Feiwell also feels the grocery clerk, the auto assembly line worker, the actor, the writer, the baker, and on and on who do not do “hard labor” should not have unions either. The fact is, workers, no matter what their jobs, are subject to unjust working conditions and unfair compensation without the power that unions provide directly or indirectly.

    American workers in general can expect a 40-hour work week, weekends, vacation time and laws against child labor all because of unions. Indeed, America was able to build a strong middle class only because of the work of the labor movement.

    The current attack on public employee unions is an attack on the last stronghold of the labor movement. Only 11 percent of American workers are now unionized, many of these are public employees. The American electorate will have to decide if it is acceptable or not to undo the hard-won work of the Labor movement by voting for candidates who do or do not support the rights of the middle class.

    What we take for granted can be gone in a flash. Anything is possible in a democracy. That’s why it takes constant vigilance."

    Workers subject to unjust working conditions without unions: Sun News Letter to the Editor | cleveland.com
    (the NEA is responsible for this advertisement)

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
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    All rights can be surpressed. But being supressed and being taken away are two totally different things.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that would be if you're serious


    and I say what I believe is true-and yes I tire of the parasite mindset. I don't have any duty to continue to supply the pubic teat so the little public sector piggies can get fat and whine that we should feed them some more

    remember the old saying

    Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered

    and the public sector unions are hogs
    Without those "parasites" you wouldn't have a job.
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