View Poll Results: Last two years beginning of a downward slide for Public Sector Unions?

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  • Unions will respond and their power will grow.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Personal property rights are one of the basis of economics. An economic breakdown occurs when personal property rights are violated.


    The standard right libertarian position to be sure. Yes, we fully understand that.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why are you asking personal questions?
    It pays to know ones enemies. I would expect a school teacher to understand property. You do not. I hope you did not harm too many with your views.

    You need not answer. I vaguely remember someone saying you were and you did not deny it.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The standard right libertarian position to be sure. Yes, we fully understand that.
    no you don't. YOu reject the concept of personal property. you have stated that the masses have the right to violate personal property rights whenever they want

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    You REFUSE to look at the rights of ALL of the governed, especially the NON-GOV'T workers (the majority of the people) that must fund the 2% that work for the gov't through taxation. We the people have rights too, including the right to set gov't pay and benefit rates. That is not some "fairness" jive defined by a union, that is for ALL of the people to decide, with NO regard for the wants of any minority no matter how loud or oppressed they claim to be. Was it not strange that we saw no mass exodus of teachers, fleeing WI to higher paying states? After all these "drastic cuts" and "stolen rights" left them destitute an unable to feed their families, right? It is summer time, school is out, time to flee the oppression and head for greener pastures during the off season. ;-)
    And you voice those rights through the normal democratic process.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    no you don't. YOu reject the concept of personal property. you have stated that the masses have the right to violate personal property rights whenever they want
    Baloney. Even worse - it is yesterdays baloney coming out on the other end.

    You are lying about my position. Go ahead and prove you have intellectual integrity. Quote me on both of your ridiculous and totally false allegations as to what I believe about private property ..

    DO IT AND DO IT NOW or man up and apologize.

    Prediction: you will be impotent to do either.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The standard right libertarian position to be sure. Yes, we fully understand that.
    Not quite. That's a standard in economics. It has nothing to with Libertarianism but more with "Common Sense Economics."
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Baloney. Even worse - it is yesterdays baloney coming out on the other end.

    You are lying about my position. Go ahead and prove you have intellectual integrity. Quote me on both of your ridiculous and totally false allegations as to what I believe about private property ..

    DO IT AND DO IT NOW or man up and apologize.

    Prediction: you will be impotent to do either.
    YOu have constantly said the rich's wealth exists only as long as the masses decide to let them keep it

    Moderates like OldReliable67 called your position "fascist" on the economics thread when you posted your bit about the rich groveling before the masses to keep what they have

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I guess that is why Alabama has seven times the population of California.
    Well, you certainly got me with that one.

    And we have far fewer illegal aliens too. Darn the bad luck.

    The cost of living is lower. It takes me less than 15 minutes to drive to work (it was close to an hour each way in LA). We have lower crime.

    Describe me as hurt that the leeches have gravitated to the Left coast.

    Just don't Californicate Alabama.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Well, you certainly got me with that one.

    And we have far fewer illegal aliens too. Darn the bad luck.

    The cost of living is lower. It takes me less than 15 minutes to drive to work (it was close to an hour each way in LA). We have lower crime.

    Describe me as hurt that the leeches have gravitated to the Left coast.

    Just don't Californicate Alabama.
    that sounds like Lynard Skynard doing a cover of a Red Hot Chilly Peppers tune

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that sounds like Lynard Skynard doing a cover of a Red Hot Chilly Peppers tune
    LOL. Okay.

    When I lived in Colorado in the mid-1970s there was a popular bumper sticker, "Don't Californicate Colorado".

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