View Poll Results: Last two years beginning of a downward slide for Public Sector Unions?

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  • Yes, their power has waxed and now it shall wane.

    44 60.27%
  • Unions will respond and their power will grow.

    14 19.18%
  • It depends on November.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    The right to property isn't a license to freeload.
    You are right. In fact, it is quite the opposite. If one wishes to acquire another's property, one must offer something in exchange. Such is the nature of civilized society. On the other hand, criminals and the government freeload on others by taking without permission. They are a decivilizing force that must be endured to the extent that they can't be eliminated entirely.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    they just might... but that doesn't excuse your intellectual dishonesty in implying her supports slavery by supporting property rights.
    That was a major part of the argument. To deny it was is just a lie.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    obvious reason eh.... let me think...

    you enjoy surfing and the waves in Alabama suck?
    It had a great deal more to do with the quality of life.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That was a major part of the argument. To deny it was is just a lie.
    sure it was, back in those days

    the person you are trying so hard to insult was not arguing that people are property..... you are being incredibly dishonest and should apologize for implying he supports slavery.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    You know Ipast that we haven't reached the level of say Ford in the past. For example, what the private sector can do next is provide the police force that is necessary to protect big business and their workers. A few large companies can cooperate to do this to reduce costs. This will reduce local taxes for home owners, whoever they are. Just noting that you are complaining about something that is natural and that most want and deserve.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    sure it was, back in those days

    the person you are trying so hard to insult was not arguing that people are property..... you are being incredibly dishonest and should apologize for implying he supports slavery.
    Baloney. For some reason, forces on the far right always seem to side with property over people. That was true on slavery and it is true today on labor rights.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    sure it was, back in those days

    the person you are trying so hard to insult was not arguing that people are property..... you are being incredibly dishonest and should apologize for implying he supports slavery.
    and it was the same convenient excuse the far right gave for NOT supporting Civil Rights laws in the Sixties - that would be the 1960's. And libertarians still wear out their computer keys defending that today for the reason of property rights.

    Nothing has changed except the calendar.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It had a great deal more to do with the quality of life.
    ahh yes, i forgot, you enjoy paying more taxes,being subject to overreaching government regulation, and having the Democratic Party in control of peoples lives... yes, I would suppose California would be a better fit for you.

    the waves in Alabama do suck though....

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It had a great deal more to do with the quality of life.
    ahh yes, i forgot, you enjoy paying more taxes,being subject to overreaching government regulation, and having the Democratic Party in control of peoples lives... yes, I would suppose California would be a better fit for you.

    the waves in Alabama do suck though....

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Baloney. For some reason, forces on the far right always seem to side with property over people. That was true on slavery and it is true today on labor rights.
    I'm not interested in your rationalization for why you were being dishonest in implying he supports slavery.

    you should apologize to him , as your attack was unjustified and dishonest.

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