View Poll Results: Last two years beginning of a downward slide for Public Sector Unions?

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Yeah your right the entire federal deficit and all the states woes are ALL the fault of public sector unions....CPwill heres the TRUTH the rich have raped public sector workers and put it all right in their pocket....the rich literally HATE that they cant control public worker unions and steal from them...so they started this class warfare between public and private sector workers...and in the end the private sector workers are going to get even Less then they are now...MORONS...they will wake up but it will be too late for them, they will have been stripped of everything especially their dignity.
    All the proof of that is right in front of t heir eyes...they'd just rather believe koch Brother super pac attack ads...

    Actually, the upper class nabobs have been raiding the treasuries of federal, state, and local government by way of graft for decades, overcharging government for whatever goods or services their company provides, often to obscene levels of greed and inconsideration.

    This is the real cause of government deficits from New Jersey to California, and since the press (also owned by upper class nabobs) pays little or no attention to it, the middle class public employee and public employee unions will continue to be made the scapegoat of government deficit, and gullible "conservative" fools will continue to parrot the narrative which has been preached to them by the very same nabobs who have been looting the public treasury all along.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Actually, the upper class nabobs have been raiding the treasuries of federal, state, and local government by way of graft for decades, overcharging government for whatever goods or services their company provides, often to obscene levels of greed and inconsideration.

    This is the real cause of government deficits from New Jersey to California, and since the press (also owned by upper class nabobs) pays little or no attention to it, the middle class public employee and public employee unions will continue to be made the scapegoat of government deficit, and gullible "conservative" fools will continue to parrot the narrative which has been preached to them by the very same nabobs who have been looting the public treasury all along.
    I see we have another liberal democrat who engages in class warfare.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    I see we have another liberal democrat who engages in class warfare.
    Sig a liberal democrat! hahaha I thought I'd never see the day...
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    I see we have another liberal democrat who engages in class warfare.
    What the Sig has to say is closer to the truth than any words from conservatives..
    Why is this ?
    I believe that the wealthy are well represented by the conservatives, not the liberals.
    Check out their numbers.
    But all this "warfare" does no man any good.
    We need a balance.....between the cons and the libs...
    Thus far, IMO, the cons have been much better in selling their agenda to John Q Public than have the libs.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Sig a liberal democrat! hahaha I thought I'd never see the day...
    I am neither a Liberal nor a Democrat, just as I am neither a Conservative nor a Republican. I refuse to pigeon-hole my political perspective.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    I see we have another liberal democrat who engages in class warfare.
    I see we have another fool who likes to play "The Emperor's New Clothes."

    Pretending that things are not the way they are because it makes you feel more secure in your self-applied political label, does not make them so.


    Incidentally, this is class warfare and it is the upper class nabobs who started it.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    I see we have another fool who likes to play "The Emperor's New Clothes."
    Why not? It's a good song. And Sinead is a bigtime troll.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFpregq5eJ4

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    No, that is just your dumb misunderstanding of what I want.

    What I do is to specify an aim, and do what is required to reach that aim. I want to compare what the average wage is adjusted for costs. That means, living standards. I am not interested in checking what an equivalent worker would earn in each state.

    How many times do I have to tell you this before it penetrates your thick skull.
    We get it. We get the calling of names. We get the insults. We get that you want to manipulate what you want to get what you want how you want it.

    We get it.

    Always have from the start.
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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I would just like to hear what you think the answer is. When price increases, what happens to demand?
    Will kids not need to be educated if you raise cost?

    Will people ill not need treatment if you raise cost?

    You tell me, what ahppens to demand.

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    Re: Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Will kids not need to be educated if you raise cost?

    Will people ill not need treatment if you raise cost?

    You tell me, what ahppens to demand.
    I saw that you crafty devil! The counter to your SPECIFIC questions are just as poignant.

    Will lowering the cost reduce the same education need?

    Will lowering the cost reduce the same treatment need?

    Their arguement evolved around RTW/non-RTW incomes...nice try...

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