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Thread: Should straight marraige be left to the states?

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    Re: Should straight marraige be left to the states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No. The same reason applies here as it does to SSM. Marriage is a fundemental right and as such should be protected by the Federal Government.
    How is it a fundamental right? It's a contract. It's original intent was to protect property and promote family status, protection, and strengthen ties between clans.
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    Re: Should straight marraige be left to the states?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    How is it a fundamental right? It's a contract. It's original intent was to protect property and promote family status, protection, and strengthen ties between clans.
    Besides my personal views, two supreme court cases have based their rulings on the premise that marriage is a fundemental right. Loving v Virginia and Zablocki v Redhail.
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    Re: Should straight marraige be left to the states?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    How is it a fundamental right? It's a contract. It's original intent was to protect property and promote family status, protection, and strengthen ties between clans.
    Contract is a fundamental right.
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    Re: Should straight marraige be left to the states?

    States issue the marriage licenses, they can do what they want. If they want to ban all marriages and make it purely non-legal they can do that too.
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    Re: Should straight marraige be left to the states?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    States issue the marriage licenses, they can do what they want. If they want to ban all marriages and make it purely non-legal they can do that too.
    States also issue CCW permits. Should they be able to ban guns period?
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    Re: Should straight marraige be left to the states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    States also issue CCW permits. Should they be able to ban guns period?
    The right to bear arms is clearly written in the Constitution, so no. As it is now though it is the state's right to define the parameters for marriage and issue marriage contracts.
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    Re: Should straight marraige be left to the states?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    States issue the marriage licenses, they can do what they want. If they want to ban all marriages and make it purely non-legal they can do that too.
    Really Digs? So state can unilaterally decide to deny a marriage license to fat people? Or to old people? Or brown-haired people?
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    Re: Should straight marraige be left to the states?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Really Digs? So state can unilaterally decide to deny a marriage license to fat people? Or to old people? Or brown-haired people?
    What rights do the states have? Or does the fed have the rights? DOMA is unconstitutional because it restricts the rights of states who recognize gay marriages and trumps those state rights. A state cannot deny marriage based on race or religion (as protected in the Constitution) but they can restrict it based on gender and gender roles. A state chooses the criteria for legal marriage in accordance with the Constitution which as of now allows states to ban or approve of homosexual marriages.
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    Re: Should straight marraige be left to the states?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    What rights do the states have? Or does the fed have the rights? DOMA is unconstitutional because it restricts the rights of states who recognize gay marriages and trumps those state rights. A state cannot deny marriage based on race or religion (as protected in the Constitution) but they can restrict it based on gender and gender roles. A state chooses the criteria for legal marriage in accordance with the Constitution which as of now allows states to ban or approve of homosexual marriages.
    So in other words, you are fine with a state passing a law that says once you turn 50 you aren't allowed to marry....or only blue eyed people are allowed to marry...or in order to marry you must weigh less than 200 pounds?
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    Re: Should straight marraige be left to the states?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The right to bear arms is clearly written in the Constitution, so no. As it is now though it is the state's right to define the parameters for marriage and issue marriage contracts.
    9th Amendment:
    "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

    And with two previous supreme court rulings basing their ruling on the premise that marriage is a fundemental right (which you know will affect SCOTUS'S decision when SSM gets before them) then the 9th applies. IE this is not a state decision.
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