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Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share?

  • Yes

    Votes: 58 48.3%

  • No

    Votes: 62 51.7%
  • Total voters
    120
MoSurveyor said:
:lamo :lamo :lamo
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laugh all you want but you are showing ignorance

the rich pay a higher rate on earned income than the bus driver

and they don't pay a lower rate on investment income

try to disprove it if you want

you are pretending investment income is the same as earned income which of course is wrong
 
Bodhisattva said:
My family is the epitome of taking from others for the life that they desire.
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So they stole from people or were they given it by those individuals?

Since that is reality then your point that I have no point is pointless.
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Not really unless the avenue they took to gain their wealth is similar.
 
TurtleDude said:
laugh all you want but you are showing ignorance
the rich pay a higher rate on earned income than the bus driver
and they don't pay a lower rate on investment income
try to disprove it if you want
you are pretending investment income is the same as earned income which of course is wrong
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I'm sure you have been very specific about all your herefores, wherefores, howfores, and whatnots to have made legally correct statements - but it's really quite amusing none the less.
 
Henrin said:
Do they know? I would love for you to prove that idiotic drivel.
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You never bother to prove your idiotic drivel. Do you think you're "special"?
 
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MoSurveyor said:
You never bother to prove your idiotic drivel. Do you think you're "special"?
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So using voluntary arrangements to manufacture a life for yourself is comparable to taxing people to manufacture a life for yourself.

Ok?? :lamo
 
MoSurveyor said:
I'm sure you have been very specific about all your herefores, wherefores, howfores, and whatnots to have made legally correct statements - but it's really quite amusing none the less.
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that's one of the lamest concessions I have seen
 
TurtleDude said:
maybe a millionaire shouldn't pay any more tax dollars than a bus driver
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Just when you think that the bottom of the barrel has been hit, somebody comes along and furiously digs a basement.:roll:
 
Henrin said:
So using voluntary arrangements to manufacture a life for yourself is comparable to taxing people to manufacture a life for yourself.
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I hardly find it "voluntary arrangements" when no other arrangements are present.
 
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Henrin said:
So using voluntary arrangements to manufacture a life for yourself is comparable to taxing people to manufacture a life for yourself.
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The poor live such a Life of Reilly. :roll:
 
haymarket said:
Just when you think that the bottom of the barrel has been hit, somebody comes along and furiously digs a basement.:roll:
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We realize you operate under the assumption that the rich should pay more because they have more but WHY?

I don't pay more than you do for anything other than government
 
MoSurveyor said:
I hardly find it "voluntary arrangements" when no other arrangements are present.
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It hardly matters what you personally find is not voluntary about voluntary arrangement.

MoSurveyor said:
The poor live such a Life of Reilly. :roll:
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The quality of their lives hardly matters on the avenue they are taking to gain it.
 
Henrin said:
It hardly matters what you personally find is not voluntary about voluntary arrangement.
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It's not voluntary, that's the whole point. When one is required to pick between Master A, Master B, or Master C and do what the Master wills it's still slavery.
 
Henrin said:
The quality of their lives hardly matters on the avenue they are taking to gain it.
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Yes, they should die and make the rich that much more comfortable.
 
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MoSurveyor said:
It's not voluntary, that's the whole point. When one is required to pick between Master A, Master B, or Master C and do what the Master wills it's still slavery.
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Loose definition of slavery you have there and best yet it's an oxymoron.
 
TurtleDude said:
We realize you operate under the assumption that the rich should pay more because they have more but WHY?

I don't pay more than you do for anything other than government
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The fact that you don't understand the reasons for progressive taxes and it's history as it pertains to America makes me wonder if you were born here. It has been a part of our income tax since it's inception and has long been considered settled law. You know my opinion but I wonder why you believe tax rates should not be based on what the individual can afford to pay? Perhaps you were just born 100 years too late, the time for this debate was 1913 when the first Income taxes (and they were progressive) were levied.
 
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iguanaman said:
The fact that you don't understand the reasons for progressive taxes and it's history as it pertains to America makes me wonder if you were born here. It has been a part of our income tax since it's inception and has long been considered settled law. You know my opinion but I wonder why you believe tax rates should not be based on what the individual can afford to pay? Perhaps you were just born 100 years too late, the time for this debate was 1913 when the first Income taxes (and they were progressive) were levied.
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Yeah the reason for it is it works for politicians by appealing to the envy of the many

you can promise more voters more stuff without pissing them off because you tax a minority a lot to buy yourself votes.

My family was here before the Constitution was created. ANd just because something is settled law doesn't mean its right

that is one of the most idiotic arguments going-its statist mind numbing babble.

the history of progressive taxes?

buying the votes of people like you with the money of people like me.
 
Henrin said:
Loose definition of slavery you have there [...]
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Show me a commons where people can eek out a meager existence and I'll concede it's not slavery.


Otherwise they are given no choice but to deal with the real property owners on whatever terms the property owners decide.
 
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Henrin said:
Still trying to find an argument, are you?
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Not at all - I've merely brought your argument into focus.


Show me the commons where people can eek out a meager existence.
 
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I've had enough of the soak the rich argument.

How are we going to keep creating jobs if you raise our taxes?
 
MoSurveyor said:
Show me a commons where people can eek out a meager existence and I'll concede it's not slavery.


Otherwise they are given no choice but to deal with the real property owners on whatever terms the property owners decide.
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You're really going to defend your hyperbole? So be it man. Voluntary arrangements are not slavery. Deal with it.
 
Henrin said:
You're really going to defend your hyperbole? So be it man.
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In other words, there is no commons and no other choice but to deal with the real property owners.
 
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