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Thread: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Can I get 70%? 70? The lie is at 60% can we get 70? Going once, Going twice, SOLD! The lie is sold at 60% to the poor lawyer from Ohio.


    60% TD? Even for you that's absurd.
    what are you babbling about-this board is filled with people claiming that we need to go back to the rates of the 50s

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what are you babbling about-this board is filled with people claiming that we need to go back to the rates of the 50s
    And some who try to stretch the truth and claim we're already there.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Like the scorpion, it's their nature... It's what they do.
    Don't work out, work in.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    And some who try to stretch the truth and claim we're already there.
    many of the parasite advocates claim the poor pay tons more in terms of percentage because they include state and local taxes without doing the same for the rich (and they ignore the death/estate taxes)

    but many rich are paying far more than the effective federal tax rates most of us face if we live in states with high state income taxes-such as Ohio or California

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    many of the parasite advocates claim the poor pay tons more in terms of percentage because they include state and local taxes without doing the same for the rich (and they ignore the death/estate taxes)
    Let the rich add it in. With a 15% Fed tax rate and no FICA to speak of, it won't matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    but many rich are paying far more than the effective federal tax rates most of us face if we live in states with high state income taxes-such as Ohio or California
    I'll tell you what you tell the people that have jobs with terrible wages: it's a voluntary arrangement so take some personal responsibility! In fact, you've got more control over your State taxes than the people do over wages.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Let the rich add it in. With a 15% Fed tax rate and no FICA to speak of, it won't matter.

    I'll tell you what you tell the people that have jobs with terrible wages: it's a voluntary arrangement so take some personal responsibility! In fact, you've got more control over your State taxes than the people do over wages.
    that is really silly. very few people in the top 1 percent pay an effective rate below 22-24%. most of us are paying about the same overall effective federal tax rate as we have for years. Its only a few thousand megarich who have seen drastic cuts in their overall effective federal taxes rate.

    and those people pay MILLIONS of actual tax dollars each-which means they contribute far more than the yappers who whine they don't pay enough

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    can you tell us why the rich have a duty to fund all the stuff you think you are entitled to?

    why the rich have a duty to create jobs for people who don't have the ability, talent or drive to make themselves useful?
    thanks
    Because you take what you have off of everyone else for starters...number two you benefit the most from govt services....In florida the 99% pay horriific hurricane insurance premiums so all the 1%ers can own million dollar + houses on the beach and rebuild them everytime they get damaged...and the 1% has sucked the country dry out of greed...just pay and be happy...because pay is what your going to do like it or not we all have to get over what we dont like..

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Because you take what you have off of everyone else for starters...number two you benefit the most from govt services....In florida the 99% pay horriific hurricane insurance premiums so all the 1%ers can own million dollar + houses on the beach and rebuild them everytime they get damaged...and the 1% has sucked the country dry out of greed...just pay and be happy...because pay is what your going to do like it or not we all have to get over what we dont like..
    1) claiming we take from other is a lie. the rich have much to trade and get back much in trade.
    the more expensive your home and the higher your risk-the more your premiums. that is a moronic argument

    2) the rich do not use more. For you to babble such idiocy you would have to prove that the 65+ million who pay no federal income tax and the 99% who pay no federal estate/death taxes use less than the 1% who pay all the federal death taxes and 40% of the income tax

    you cannot

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    ...Which is their absolute right and perogative. And it's no one's business but theirs. Its true that there are selfish people. There are also envious people who think that they have a claim to selfish people's money. They do not. And the vast majority (2/3) of charitable contributions are made by the top 3% of income earners.

    WHAT DO WE DO NOW? | Giving Institute

    The fact that the top 3% give more than 66% of the total charitable giving each year doesn't seem to indicate that selfishness is pervasive among the super rich.
    Stats... I love it.

    If a millionaire donates 10,000 they are still left with 990,000 dollars
    If I donate 10,000 I am left with 75,000

    Of course they give the most. That really doesn't mean much though especially if much of that is a tax write off.

    It is there right but should it be? Much of my family living the life of luxury... golfing and drinking and travelling the world all the time while never once working in their life while others work two jobs 7 days a week and barely survive? Anybody who thinks that this is OK has a ****ing problem.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Stats... I love it.

    If a millionaire donates 10,000 they are still left with 990,000 dollars
    If I donate 10,000 I am left with 75,000

    Of course they give the most. That really doesn't mean much though especially if much of that is a tax write off.

    It is there right but should it be? Much of my family living the life of luxury... golfing and drinking and travelling the world all the time while never once working in their life while others work two jobs 7 days a week and barely survive? Anybody who thinks that this is OK has a ****ing problem.
    if you run a charity and a billionaire gives one hundredth of what he makes and a somewhat rich guy (making 100K a year) gives you 10% which contribution means more for your charity?

    most rich people don't have the life of dilettante leisure you speak of.

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