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Thread: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Another believer in altruism???
    Hmm. Altruism.



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    So, yes. I believe in voluntary altruism.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I have no idea what kind of crazy crap your right-wingnut websites are using to fill your head. Considering many of the half-truths and veiled lies we see you regurgitate I'm not sure I care, either.
    should we take that as a concession that you are unable or unwilling to answer the question. Yes we understand that the wealth stealers think progressive taxes were ordained by Christ himself and are only next to him in terms of Godliness but the real reasons are far more sinister and machiavellians

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

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    but the real reasons are far more sinister and machiavellians
    What the heck????? What does that even mean?????
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    should we take that as a concession that you are unable or unwilling to answer the question. Yes we understand that the wealth stealers think progressive taxes were ordained by Christ himself and are only next to him in terms of Godliness but the real reasons are far more sinister and machiavellians
    A penny tax on a million dollar yacht would be "sinister and Machiavellian" to some people around here. LOL!
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    Hmm. Altruism.

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    So, yes. I believe in voluntary altruism.
    So you believe people act without any return for themselves? They get nothing at all from giving - not even a sense of feeling good?? Sorry, I just don't buy it. There is no motivation to repeat behavior without reward of some kind. Even if it's just a "good feeling" it's still a selfish motivation with a reward.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
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    What the heck????? What does that even mean?????
    ignoring the obvious? the purpose was to allow politicians to gain more power-the PIT allowed them to pander to lots of people and pay for that pandering by only pissing off a small number of people. Before the PIT, congress had to make do with the revenue that came from tariffs and excise taxes on spirits. with the PIT lots of money to buy votes with

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    A penny tax on a million dollar yacht would be "sinister and Machiavellian" to some people around here. LOL!
    if that is all the parasite advocacy group wanted, no. when you believe it is proper for those who make 22% of the income paying 40-50-60% of the income tax burden, that is disgusting

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ignoring the obvious? the purpose was to allow politicians to gain more power-the PIT allowed them to pander to lots of people and pay for that pandering by only pissing off a small number of people. Before the PIT, congress had to make do with the revenue that came from tariffs and excise taxes on spirits. with the PIT lots of money to buy votes with
    No - it is you who seem to be ignoring the obvious.

    I was NOT referring to your standard speech given for what seems the 8,391 time about democratic party politicians and votes and the dependent. No. We have all heard that so many times we could recite it in out sleep but a discussion of nightmares would derail this thread.

    The point was this that you wrote

    but the real reasons are far more sinister and machiavellians
    What does that mean? ARE does not agree with MACHIAVELLIANS. Did you mean to say the singular and simply added the letter S when there should be none? Or is there some group of people that are pledged to follow the Italian writer that we do not know about?
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    some people understand that the progressive income tax is how their masters are able to buy the votes of the masses with the money of the few. To pretend that the progressive income tax was devised as some sort of humanitarian mechanism is just plain silly. and it certainly is one of the major sources of extra-constitutional power utilized by congress

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if that is all the parasite advocacy group wanted, no. when you believe it is proper for those who make 22% of the income paying 40-50-60% of the income tax burden, that is disgusting
    Can I get 70%? 70? The lie is at 60% can we get 70? Going once, Going twice, SOLD! The lie is sold at 60% to the poor lawyer from Ohio.


    60% TD? Even for you that's absurd.
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