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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wages are based on the market. and that still is the best determinative
    Yep! That Race to the Bottom is always the most profitable for the capitalist. Kinda' screws up the rest of the country, though.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is complete nonsense. IN my city, the poorest area of the city causes half the police runs. the richest area has less police calls in a month than the poor area does in 4 hours
    Just a couple questions: Is the population density the same in both areas? Are the criminals earning a low income and paying low taxes or they doing something different? If the non-criminal workers living in the poorest areas lived in another area without criminals would they use 180 times more police runs.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Yep! That Race to the Bottom is always the most profitable for the capitalist. Kinda' screws up the rest of the country, though.

    the desire to impose "fairness" or wages by the government has always been a rousing success

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Just a couple questions: Is the population density the same in both areas? Are the criminals earning a low income and paying low taxes or they doing something different? If the non-criminal workers living in the poorest areas lived in another area without criminals would they use 180 times more police runs.
    14% of the population is responsible for 70% of the police calls

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Lost? That's odd, I thought it was just a discussion they were having - not a debate.


    Of course, I can see where you'd like to believe he 'lost' or that his opinion in this matter is somehow wrong but considering your history I'm more inclined to believe you've made some stuff up and are trying to peddle it as fact, again.
    Are you aware of what went down when the progressive tax was originally passed? Apparently not.

    Are you aware what the problem was? Apparently not.

    Do you know how the government was originally funded and how they decided on it? Apparently not.

    Your ignorance is outstanding, but continue on with it.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You can be as glib as you want but that does not change the fact that many people want to work but are unable to get jobs that pay enough to support themselves or a family. I am not a socialist or a liberal... I am a realist that accepts that people are selfish and will keep as much for themselves as they can and justify the reasons for it. Much like a few of you are doing.
    ...Which is their absolute right and perogative. And it's no one's business but theirs. Its true that there are selfish people. There are also envious people who think that they have a claim to selfish people's money. They do not. And the vast majority (2/3) of charitable contributions are made by the top 3% of income earners.

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    The fact that the top 3% give more than 66% of the total charitable giving each year doesn't seem to indicate that selfishness is pervasive among the super rich.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Are you aware of what went down when the progressive tax was originally passed? Apparently not.
    Are you aware what the problem was? Apparently not.
    Do you know how the government was originally funded and how they decided on it? Apparently not.
    Your ignorance is outstanding, but continue on with it.
    I have no idea what kind of crazy crap your right-wingnut websites are using to fill your head. Considering many of the half-truths and veiled lies we see you regurgitate I'm not sure I care, either.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    ...Which is their absolute right and perogative. And it's no one's business but theirs. Its true that there are selfish people. There are also envious people who think that they have a claim to selfish people's money. They do not. And the vast majority (2/3) of charitable contributions are made by the top 3% of income earners.

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    The fact that the top 3% give more than 66% of the total charitable giving each year doesn't seem to indicate that selfishness is pervasive among the super rich.
    Another believer in altruism???
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what gaping idiocy. You were the one who brought up violence not me. Your obsession appears to be over the fact others are more industrious than you are and you think that means they should be taxed to pay for what you want

    and you also have this attitude that those who succeed must have "walked over others"

    that assumes facts not in evidence and demonstrates the typical attitude of excusing why you do not succeed
    Your ASSUMES FACTS NOT IN EVIDENCE describes every one of your posts where you rip on somebody who disagrees with you and you assume it is because of money they may not have.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then
    Just a couple questions: Is the population density the same in both areas? Are the criminals earning a low income and paying low taxes or they doing something different? If the non-criminal workers living in the poorest areas lived in another area without criminals would they use 180 times more police runs.



    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    14% of the population is responsible for 70% of the police calls

    OK, who are those 14%? Are they the employed low income workers that should be paying higher taxes because the use the police so much and the police are the major users of our tax money?
    Last edited by OhIsee.Then; 06-22-12 at 11:59 AM.

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