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Thread: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    What makes you think they aren't helping the poor?
    - If people on the bottom get more money then it would seem they are helping the poor.
    - Your constant whining certainly enforces my belief they are helping the poor.

    It's a sure bet if they were helping you as much as you'd like, you wouldn't be whining about it - or maybe you would. Sometimes I think you just like to whine. Maybe it's your excuse for eating $50/lb cheese.


    As for "private charity freely given" that's not altruism either. For the 1% I'm sure it's nothing more than a tax write-off or a way to somehow pay off some of their guilt. Personally, I do it because it makes me feel good. That's still not altruistic. Like I said, altruism doesn't exist and anyone believing otherwise is delusional.

    What admission - that you draw poor and inaccurate conclusions? I'm glad you agree!
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    Yes. This also fits in with the proper meaning of "deserve." Meriting wages due to working. Hmm. What a concept.
    You can be as glib as you want but that does not change the fact that many people want to work but are unable to get jobs that pay enough to support themselves or a family. I am not a socialist or a liberal... I am a realist that accepts that people are selfish and will keep as much for themselves as they can and justify the reasons for it. Much like a few of you are doing.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that makes no sense whatsoever. you are in no position to determine what someone else deserves or "needs" and using that attitude, you can be held to say that as long as someone is poor, no one should be rich
    I always love the "who are you to decide" argument. It actually makes perfect sense TD. People can be poor for a variety of reasons. Being poor is not the issue it is why people are poor. Hard working people that slave away should not be poor. You want to work at Blockbuster and make minimum for checking out some movies you should be poor. You work in construction or trash collecting or something else completely vital to society then you should not be poor.

    People can be rich and people can be poor but the hardest working people should be rich... not just the ones that lucked into a certain job.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Nah you tax hikers (don't tax me-tax the other guy) are doing that out of the goodness of your heart. Your concept of charity is demanding someone else be forced to help the poor.
    Egocentric to the end, like no one else's tax money helps the poor. LOL! Well, at least you're consistent even if your views are badly skewed.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Egocentric to the end, like no one else's tax money helps the poor. LOL! Well, at least you're consistent even if your views are badly skewed.
    why do people like me have a duty to fund most of what people like you want? only when you have to pay for the government you demand will you get the clue that there is too much government. and no-I don't believe the massive government spending helps the poor-it causes dependency and sloth-which is what the dems want since dependent sloths tend to vote for those who feed their dependency and sloth

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    I haven't been posting on this thread and haven't read all the posts, but I think something is being missed by most. I've thought about this on and off for a long time. High income people us a much larger share of the country's infrastructure than the low income people. One example is shipping product. The content of a truck leaving the plant where I worked 'carried' more product to cover the CEO's salary and bonuses, than mine. (He also got things like differed bonuses.) So the government infrastructure was used by him more than I used. There are many examples of this.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    I haven't been posting on this thread and haven't read all the posts, but I think something is being missed by most. I've thought about this on and off for a long time. High income people us a much larger share of the country's infrastructure than the low income people. One example is shipping product. The content of a truck leaving the plant where I worked 'carried' more product to cover the CEO's salary and bonuses, than mine. (He also got things like differed bonuses.) So the government infrastructure was used by him more than I used. There are many examples of this.
    that is complete nonsense. IN my city, the poorest area of the city causes half the police runs. the richest area has less police calls in a month than the poor area does in 4 hours

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    No response TD?
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I always love the "who are you to decide" argument. It actually makes perfect sense TD. People can be poor for a variety of reasons. Being poor is not the issue it is why people are poor. Hard working people that slave away should not be poor. You want to work at Blockbuster and make minimum for checking out some movies you should be poor. You work in construction or trash collecting or something else completely vital to society then you should not be poor.

    People can be rich and people can be poor but the hardest working people should be rich... not just the ones that lucked into a certain job.

    Life isn't fair and its not government's proper role to try to change that. Joe Strummer ran marathons and died at age 50 of a heart attack, Gregg Allman and Keith Richards did more drugs on a tour than Pfizer produced in a calendar year and they both are still playing.

    wages are based on the market. and that still is the best determinative

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why do people like me have a duty to fund most of what people like you want? only when you have to pay for the government you demand will you get the clue that there is too much government. and no-I don't believe the massive government spending helps the poor-it causes dependency and sloth-which is what the dems want since dependent sloths tend to vote for those who feed their dependency and sloth
    "People like you"?!?

    You think I don't pay for government?

    And you get 3/3 this post - you're back on the "buying the poor vote" shtick, again!
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