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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
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    I apologize - exceptions for food are more common than I thought.
    We have to pay state sales tax for food from a grocery in Virginia, and if you go to a restaurant, they also have a big local meals tax you have to pay too.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba
    Only the rich get most of their income from investments.
    Not entirely accurate, but I did state they are the ones who most commonly do.

    How did it hurt the rich under Reagan when he increased the capital gains tax rate to that of earned income?
    Who's talking about hurting the rich?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Funny, that's not what MY grocery reciept shows! Sales taxes are not the same in all parts of the country. Here, sales taxes are sales taxes, nothing is "special".
    I've never been somewhere in America where food wasn't taxed. If your state is taxing food, that might be the FIRST thing I'd petition.

    You must live in Texas - that's where the last guy that tried that ploy was from.
    Colorado actually.


    You've obviously never been poor.
    That's not very accurate. Though, I don't see how it's relevant either way.

    It takes what it takes to get you back and forth to work. This is not something you can "manage", it's part of the cost of working and reduces the amount of money you have to spend on other things -- like food.
    I meant manage in that it's generally affordable. If driving to and from work is becoming too much of a burden, there are alternatives to look at.

    Of course it is. You've been blinded by right-wing propaganda who's only goal is to make sure that $2.6 trillion SSA Trust Fund finds it's way into the hands of Wall St bankers.
    I would respond to this, but my rich racist banker masters have not taught me the proper response.

    Exactly! It typically runs at 20-30% but has been at 15% for the last decade. Now we have an economy where investment income is worthless because demand is in the toilet. So explain to me again why the LTCG tax is at 15% instead of 25-30% - or even higher? Where's the pressing need for investment money that makes it worthwhile to keep the rate artificially low at this time?
    It's low because all taxes are low.

    I apologize - exceptions for food are more common than I thought.
    Technically I was wrong because it was not a country wide policy like I had assumed.

    Really though, if your state is charging tax on food, that's the first reform I would look at.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Who's talking about hurting the rich?
    What other reason would the rich have for cutting benefits to our most vulnerable to give themselves even bigger tax cuts at the expense of the economy? Is it just flat out greed?


    I've never been somewhere in America where food wasn't taxed. If your state is taxing food, that might be the FIRST thing I'd petition.
    Your statements contradict one another.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Can a group of individuals take from another to manufacture the life they desire?

    You see, I don't think your point has much worth here.
    My family is the epitome of taking from others for the life that they desire.

    Since that is reality then your point that I have no point is pointless.

    If you want to ignore that then that is fine but to dismiss it as irrelevant is really just darn silly.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What other reason would the rich have for cutting benefits to our most vulnerable to give themselves even bigger tax cuts at the expense of the economy? Is it just flat out greed?
    What the hell are you even talking about now?


    Your statements contradict one another.
    In what way?
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    If the rich paid their fair share, a progressive tax system would be in place. Taxes shouldn't be based on a base amount all should pay, which it now even isn't, but the super rich are disproportionally taxed in terms of their income.

    The super rich even have access to lawyers for loopholes that are embedded in the system for their benefit (which could possibly be due to their influence and that they shape policy, maybe, who really knows, it's not like data support this), so they pay even less than the aforementioned low amount proportional to their income.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    What the hell are you even talking about now?
    Why cut benefits for seniors and the poor so you can give the rich bigger tax cuts if rich don't need the tax cuts?




    In what way?
    They indicate the opposite of each other. That's pretty much the definition of contradiction so I thought it would be self-explanatory.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    I meant manage in that it's generally affordable. If driving to and from work is becoming too much of a burden, there are alternatives to look at.
    There aren't many alternatives in this economic climate. If you have to drive 30 miles to get to work then that's what you do. For the average car that's ~3 gallons of gas a day, which is much more than the cost of food.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I agree with Reagan that a bus driver shouldn't have to pay a higher tax rate than a millionaire.
    maybe a millionaire shouldn't pay any more tax dollars than a bus driver

    and guess what-Reagan was FOS on this-the millionaire pays at least the same or higher rate on like income than the bus driver

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Only the rich get most of their income from investments.



    How did it hurt the rich under Reagan when he increased the capital gains tax rate to that of earned income?
    that's a lie, there are retirees who get all of their income from investments and they are not rich

    Why would it HURT YOU if I paid the same percentage on my earned income as you do?

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