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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    So are you giving up the "rich pay less" shtick?
    The rich who's income is primarily from investment earnings pay a lower percentage of their total income, then do the working class that have to pay taxes on their total income.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Only because we (the voters) have allowed it. Capital gains have been taxed the same as earned income in the past, and they can be again in the future, depending on the results of the elections.
    What a backwards way to think of property. You don't allow people to keep what they own since you don't have ownership of it.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What a backwards way to think of property. You don't allow people to keep what they own since you don't have ownership of it.
    Actually, the people can indeed decide what they will allow others to keep and what they will not allow them to keep. This is done through a policy of taxation. Its rather common.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually, the people can indeed decide what they will allow others to keep and what they will not allow them to keep. This is done through a policy of taxation. Its rather common.
    Ignoring my earlier statement I see..

    Can a group of individuals take from another to manufacture the life they desire?
    The fact is they can not or else they are violating the rights of others.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Ignoring my earlier statement I see..



    The fact is they can not or else they are violating the rights of others.
    I hope these sort of posts mean something to you because I read the and say "what the ........????"
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Does the military pay FICA?
    ((FICA is 7.45% of gross income for most people.))
    If "yes" did you deduct those FICA contributions from your "refund"?



    I also have to wonder how many military perks are not represented on the 1040.

    I'm not saying you don't deserve the perks as a member of the military but you may not represent an average person's pay reporting process and/or deductions.

    I'm sure exceptions can be found in every system - like GE completely skating on taxes one year, of which waaaay too many people made an issue - military compensation may be one of those cases.
    I'm all for FICA reform. Especially since it's no longer doing what it was meant to do.

    The rich who's income is primarily from investment earnings pay a lower percentage of their total income, then do the working class that have to pay taxes on their total income.
    Any whose income is primarily from investment will pay less than someone making a comparable amount in income, not just the rich.

    While I can see the rationale behind your statement (the rich will inevitably make more from investment), I'm not quite sure I agree with the notion of charging high rates on long term investment.

    Just for clarity, historical capital gains rates can be found here.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    The middle class is generally skating. Gasoline taxes? Sales Taxes? Doesn't exactly make up 50% of my income.
    skating my arse...and sales tax, gas tax, state income taxs , and fees amount to far higher percentage of a person making 50k income than it does a multimillionaire....you conservatives have seriously gone mad...

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I hope these sort of posts mean something to you because I read the and say "what the ........????"
    Can a group of individuals take from another to manufacture the life they desire?
    Answer the question. IS it a violation of someones rights to take from them to manufacture a better life for yourself? Yes or No. Take note that I know why you are avoiding the question.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The rich who's income is primarily from investment earnings pay a lower percentage of their total income, then do the working class that have to pay taxes on their total income.
    wrong, very few working class people have federal income taxes of an effective rate of 14%

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    skating my arse...and sales tax, gas tax, state income taxs , and fees amount to far higher percentage of a person making 50k income than it does a multimillionaire....you conservatives have seriously gone mad...
    not true-you ignore the fact that the state income taxes really hit the rich as do property taxes and of course the estate/death taxes.

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