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Thread: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Then FICA should be included in all discussions of Fed taxes. The poor are paying more than their "fair share" as a percent of income given that every one of them pay 7.45% of their paycheck with no deductions and no chance of refunds - and that's before any Fed income tax is included. The rich are skating ...
    I will be sure to tell that to people I know that get back a few grand more than they pay.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I will be sure to tell that to people I know that get back a few grand more than they pay.
    Did you include their FICA contributions in this theoretical "refund"? Thought not ...
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Did you include their FICA contributions in this theoretical "refund"? Thought not ...
    That matters how when you are in the black?

    What is your point anyway?

    Because they pay into it that its not welfare? Lol?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That matters how when you are in the black?
    If they get back $2k from income taxes (I presume you're talking about the EIC?) but loose $2.5k to FICA that's still paying out $500.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What is your point anyway?

    Because they pay into it that its not welfare? Lol?
    Are or will your IRA and 401k payouts be welfare?
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    You DO realize that eight and twelve do not exist on die at Vegas...right?
    Where did you read that I was talking about dice in those numbers? You connected two different paragraphs. You should note that a paragraph break and change sometimes indicates that the thought has been switched or changed. I was simply showing that what you labeled something did not change what it actually is. And it was wisely point out to you that the word dice refers to a plural meaning more than one.

    Either way - you lose..... rolling snake eyes.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Then FICA should be included in all discussions of Fed taxes. The poor are paying more than their "fair share" as a percent of income given that every one of them pay 7.45% of their paycheck with no deductions and no chance of refunds - and that's before any Fed income tax is included. The rich are skating ...
    My uncle is rich. State, Local, Federal, etc; he loses about 50 cents of every dollar he makes to one government or another.

    I'm not rich. In fact, I've spent pretty much my entire working life thus far below the median income. I get more money back every year than I pay in taxes. Our tax system for me is an income.

    I'm pretty sure, as far as our respective tax-paying duties, one of us is skating, and the other one isn't...

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    My uncle is rich. State, Local, Federal, etc; he loses about 50 cents of every dollar he makes to one government or another.

    I'm not rich. In fact, I've spent pretty much my entire working life thus far below the median income. I get more money back every year than I pay in taxes. Our tax system for me is an income.


    I'm pretty sure, as far as our respective tax-paying duties, one of us is skating, and the other one isn't...

    So does the middleclass and they are far less able to afford it. Middleclass and low income earners pay every single tax and duty and fee your rich uncle pays...gasoline taxs, sales taxs at all the SAME RATE as your uncle....your rich uncle is asked to pay more in income tax because he has it all....and he should...just like I do an all others should

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    So does the middleclass and they are far less able to afford it. Middleclass and low income earners pay every single tax and duty and fee your rich uncle pays...gasoline taxs, sales taxs at all the SAME RATE as your uncle....your rich uncle is asked to pay more in income tax because he has it all....and he should...just like I do an all others should
    The middle class is generally skating. Gasoline taxes? Sales Taxes? Doesn't exactly make up 50% of my income.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He said "dice"... that's plural.
    Not to beleaguer the point, yes but he stated:

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    SIX can be eight minus two.
    Which would infer that one DIE is eight and the other DIE two…

    SIX can be twelve divided by two.
    Which would infer that one DIE is twelve …unless other, then the point is ambiguous.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Where did you read that I was talking about dice in those numbers? You connected two different paragraphs. You should note that a paragraph break and change sometimes indicates that the thought has been switched or changed. I was simply showing that what you labeled something did not change what it actually is. And it was wisely point out to you that the word dice refers to a plural meaning more than one.
    Actually I failed to understand the reference to SIX and the multiple ways it could be arrived at by arithmetic.

    Either way - you lose..... rolling snake eyes.
    Depends…I developed a betting strategy called a ‘Tunica three-way’. It consists of a whirl, field and pass line bet of equal units on the come out roll. IF a 2, snake eyes, is rolled I lose the pass line, win double on the field and 30-1 payout on the whirl so technically I win a net $25 on a $15 bet…but I digress.

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