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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    stop lying, his overall effective federal tax on his income is about 14%-people like you don't pay near that much.
    I have had years where I pay that much. And when I don't its not far off that.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I have had years where I pay that much. And when I don't its not far off that.
    Daggum. Double-dipping with that nice pension must be paying better than I thought.



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    The only profession I know off off the bat that pays higher is what my dad does - as a minister he has to pay both sides of FICA out of his pocket, so he get's hit with 15.2 right out the gate.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by jpevans View Post

    No, No ,No, Everyday 3 or more water mains break, thousands ofbridges need repair or replacing. There are jurisdictions where are certian 911 calls (against woman) the chief of police won't let his men roll, due to lack of officers. Many urban areas fear a major fire, what with skeleton crews in firehouses. There are classrooms with 40 kids & we are way behind in science/math.The Romney-bot says the federal government doesn't pay for cops, firefighters & teachers, but I guess he can be forgiven his ignorance because he's never been a governor. What, what's that you say, he was a governor? He accepted block grants from the fed. Gov. for police & fire fighter & teachers? Then he's willfully lying? But I digress,The top teir "Job Creators" haven't come through on the implyed promise of the Bush Tax cuts, they have been pocketing the savings rather than "Creating Jobs", in America at least. But instead of "creating" new taxpayers, they have added burdens on the remaining taxpayer, by laying off millions of American workers, sending their work offshore.
    A modest increase to pre-Bush rates, let's pass President Obama's Jobs Bill & get to work on American Inferstructure, before another bridge collapses, while putting American's back to work.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post


    The only profession I know off off the bat that pays higher is what my dad does - as a minister he has to pay both sides of FICA out of his pocket, so he get's hit with 15.2 right out the gate.
    All self employed people pay both sides of FICA taxes

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?


    Ask your M... oh nevermind.
    I've been on four other forums, two that closed, one that was boring (all liberals) & one that I'm presently on a volunetary leave, due to a bet. I've always taken advantage of the otions available for font & size (I like to see what I'm writing) & have only been questioned once before, humorously. Maybe because others took advantage of the options also. I've been called a douch & now had the size of my...oh nevermind questioned.
    This does seem a uniform lot. This is the last time I'll bother with those intolerant of those who tend to be different. Hurl those insults if you will, I thrive on 'em.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I have had years where I pay that much. And when I don't its not far off that.

    You badly underestimate people who are not sipping tea with you at your private club.
    Actually I was running a youth athletic event today-14 hours of work, no pay. THough I am a national level Judge, I won't take pay for that. Hardly sipping tea which I don't drink anyway. but if you were paying an effective federal rate of 14% that puts you in the top 3% since Mitt pays a higher effective rate than 97% of America

    He also pays more in a year than you will pay in your lifetime and I doubt he uses more in a year than you do in a lifetime or even a couple years since he isn't being paid with tax dollars.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    All self employed people pay both sides of FICA taxes
    Not terribly surprising. I'm betting that means small business owners, who make up the vast majority of our wealthy as well?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by jpevans View Post

    Ask your M... oh nevermind.
    I've been on four other forums, two that closed, one that was boring (all liberals) & one that I'm presently on a volunetary leave, due to a bet. I've always taken advantage of the otions available for font & size (I like to see what I'm writing) & have only been questioned once before, humorously. Maybe because others took advantage of the options also. I've been called a douch & now had the size of my...oh nevermind questioned.
    This does seem a uniform lot. This is the last time I'll bother with those intolerant of those who tend to be different. Hurl those insults if you will, I thrive on 'em.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Not terribly surprising. I'm betting that means small business owners, who make up the vast majority of our wealthy as well?
    And it also includes people like cab drivers and Mobilteria guys.

    Of course, the people making the big bucks (NOT the cabbie or Mobilteria guy) only pay on the first ~$106k of earned income. After that's it's ZERO regardless of how much more you make.

    There's is also no FICA for capital gains, either.


    According to your little chart here, the people making $50-100k are actually having more taken out of their paychecks than Romney. Is it any wonder people get PO'ed at the rich when they whine about tax rates?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    And it also includes people like cab drivers and Mobilteria guys.

    Of course, the people making the big bucks (NOT the cabbie or Mobilteria guy) only pay on the first ~$106k of earned income. After that's it's ZERO regardless of how much more you make.
    Unless of course, like most folks making more than that, they are small business owners, in which case they are paying 15.2% on that first $106K, unlike the wide majority of those making less than $106K who are only paying 7.1%?

    This is interesting - I'll admit, I had not considered it before. Broadly, the payroll tax might not be as regressive in it's immediate impact as I had thought.

    There's is also no FICA for capital gains, either.
    and thank goodness. we already have enough tax disincentives to invest in America.

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