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Thread: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by proud2Bcatholic View Post
    I am still waiting for somebody to explain what is "fair".

    If I make $500,000 a year, what is my "fair share" I should pay in federal income taxes.

    Right now I believe it is 35%. Why isn't that "fair"?
    Man you are getting rooked, Romeny only pays 14%! Do you think is fair the super rich only pay 14% and you have to pay 35%?
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Wassamatta, couldn't back up your claim that the higher tax rates of the 90's put corporations out of business???
    that is not the issue-the rich should not pay more of the income tax than their share of the income-AND THAT STILL MEANS THEY PAY MORE THAN THEY SHOULD since the sure don't use 22% of the government services

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Man you are getting rooked, Romeny only pays 14%! Do you think is fair the super rich only pay 14% and you have to pay 35%?
    He still pays a higher rate than you do and more importantly, he pays more in a year than you pay in a life time and yet you will use more government services than he will

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is not the issue
    That was your reason given for not discontinuing their tax cuts. Just another of the ridiculous claims that you make and then run away from.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    He still pays a higher rate than you do and more importantly, he pays more in a year than you pay in a life time and yet you will use more government services than he will
    LOL! Romney pays a lower effective total tax rate than most of the country, including me!
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That was your reason given for not discontinuing their tax cuts. Just another of the ridiculous claims that you make and then run away from.
    one of the reasons why there were tax cuts was that your party jacked them up so people like you would vote for the Dems. when the party people like me often support won, the rates were cut. Dems jack up taxes to buy the votes of the envious and the spiteful, GOP cuts taxes to gain the support of the overtaxed

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    LOL! Romney pays a lower effective total tax rate than most of the country, including me!
    stop lying, his overall effective federal tax on his income is about 14%-people like you don't pay near that much.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Man you are getting rooked, Romeny only pays 14%! Do you think is fair the super rich only pay 14% and you have to pay 35%?
    No one in the country pays 35%. That is the top rate, and even if you did not itemize and took the standard deduction of $3,500, your effective rate is still less than 35%. The top bracket applies to people who make $388,000 and above. I think it is clear that people with incomes of that magnitude have plenty of write offs and are able to lower their effective rate just like Romney does, and like I do- even though I don't make nearly that much.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?


    No, No ,No, Everyday 3 or more water mains break, thousands ofbridges need repair or replacing. There are jurisdictions where are certian 911 calls (against woman) the chief of police won't let his men roll, due to lack of officers. Many urban areas fear a major fire, what with skeleton crews in firehouses. There are classrooms with 40 kids & we are way behind in science/math.The Romney-bot says the federal government doesn't pay for cops, firefighters & teachers, but I guess he can be forgiven his ignorance because he's never been a governor. What, what's that you say, he was a governor? He accepted block grants from the fed. Gov. for police & fire fighter & teachers? Then he's willfully lying? But I digress,The top teir "Job Creators" haven't come through on the implyed promise of the Bush Tax cuts, they have been pocketing the savings rather than "Creating Jobs", in America at least. But instead of "creating" new taxpayers, they have added burdens on the remaining taxpayer, by laying off millions of American workers, sending their work offshore.
    A modest increase to pre-Bush rates, let's pass President Obama's Jobs Bill & get to work on American Inferstructure, before another bridge collapses, while putting American's back to work.


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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by jpevans View Post

    No, No ,No, Everyday 3 or more water mains break, thousands ofbridges need repair or replacing. There are jurisdictions where are certian 911 calls (against woman) the chief of police won't let his men roll, due to lack of officers. Many urban areas fear a major fire, what with skeleton crews in firehouses. There are classrooms with 40 kids & we are way behind in science/math.The Romney-bot says the federal government doesn't pay for cops, firefighters & teachers, but I guess he can be forgiven his ignorance because he's never been a governor. What, what's that you say, he was a governor? He accepted block grants from the fed. Gov. for police & fire fighter & teachers? Then he's willfully lying? But I digress,The top teir "Job Creators" haven't come through on the implyed promise of the Bush Tax cuts, they have been pocketing the savings rather than "Creating Jobs", in America at least. But instead of "creating" new taxpayers, they have added burdens on the remaining taxpayer, by laying off millions of American workers, sending their work offshore.
    A modest increase to pre-Bush rates, let's pass President Obama's Jobs Bill & get to work on American Inferstructure, before another bridge collapses, while putting American's back to work.
    A great big FONT plan there, skippy. But that was SAID to have been done already. Remember? That was to keep unemployment from reaching 8%, yet only 6% of the stimulus went to NEW infrastructure, and we still have everything that you have described going on PLUS $6T in new national debt. The Bush tax cuts, lowered federal revenue from 18% of GDP to 17% of GDP, but the Obama federal spending was increased from 20% of GDP, under Bush, to 24% of GDP, yep a 20% increase. Increasing the taxes on the top 5% will MAYBE reduce the federal deficit from 40% to 38%, yet that "massive deficit reduction" disappears instantly with yet another round (or two) of stimulus. The reason that "the rich" and businesses will not increase investment and production, hiring more people, is that THEY know who will be "held accountable" to repay the HUGE national debt, THEY alone will. If your profit margin will soon be cut in HALF (by federal tax increases) then why would you wish to risk MORE of your money to do so? The rich did not get that way by being stupid. Yes he did!
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