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Thread: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Funny, last time I checked, with the Republicans talking about SS like it's welfare, every America paid 7.45% of their income to Uncle Sam - at a minimum.

    Now, if the Republicans and their lackey's want to stop referring to SS as welfare or something even close to it then we might have something to talk about.
    It is like welfare because what the average senior is getting is hundreds time more than they put into it. And most young people think they'll never get back what they are puttting into it now.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by proud2Bcatholic View Post
    It is like welfare because what the average senior is getting is hundreds time more than they put into it. And most young people think they'll never get back what they are puttting into it now.
    the first part of your statement is a wild exaggeration about the average senior. If you would like to present the supporting verifiable data, I would be glad to examine it.

    As to the second, young people can believe whatever they want to believe. Aside from possibly being unwitting dupes in a self fulfilling prophecy of their own making, it matters little.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by proud2Bcatholic View Post
    It is like welfare because what the average senior is getting is hundreds time more than they put into it.
    That's pure crap. I guess if you're going to shovel **** you may as well pile it high.

    Quote Originally Posted by proud2Bcatholic View Post
    And most young people think they'll never get back what they are puttting into it now.
    Then they're being mislead and/or stupid. But, hey, it's their future. If they need to relearn what previous generations already learned about and corrected for then so be it!
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by proud2Bcatholic View Post
    It is like welfare because what the average senior is getting is hundreds time more than they put into it. And most young people think they'll never get back what they are puttting into it now.
    Social Security is not welfare, and would be a very viable plan if two things had happened differently.
    First, the Government did not start declaring surplus SS receipts as deficit offsets. (I am not talking about the special bonds,but outright theft.)
    Second SS be allowed to invest in other stable paths. Municipal bonds, ect..

    If a person put 15% of every dollar earned below $100K for 40 years, and that money earned a modest return.
    the person would not live long enough to get all of it back at today's SS payments.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by proud2Bcatholic View Post
    It is like welfare because what the average senior is getting is hundreds time more than they put into it. And most young people think they'll never get back what they are puttting into it now.
    And I can assume from here on out that you will add into all income below ~$106k that 7.45% of Fed taxes, right?

    Feel free to include it in those upper income brackets as well. Wouldn't want anyone to think I was being unfair.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Social Security is not welfare, and would be a very viable plan if two things had happened differently.
    First, the Government did not start declaring surplus SS receipts as deficit offsets. (I am not talking about the special bonds,but outright theft.)
    Second SS be allowed to invest in other stable paths. Municipal bonds, ect..

    If a person put 15% of every dollar earned below $100K for 40 years, and that money earned a modest return.
    the person would not live long enough to get all of it back at today's SS payments.
    I mostly agree although that investment in other bonds is a little discerning. Doesn't matter, though. Even with standard Fed rates there's plenty there for the average retiree, with some very minor corrections to account for unforeseen and unpredictable economic disasters.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    I had to answer "no" because the rich pay far more than their fair share.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Funny, last time I checked, with the Republicans talking about SS like it's welfare, every America paid 7.45% of their income to Uncle Sam - at a minimum.

    Now, if the Republicans and their lackey's want to stop referring to SS as welfare or something even close to it then we might have something to talk about.
    You have a valid point there. Anybody who does work does indeed pay that FICA tax and double that when you consider what the employer matches it with funds that would have gone to the worker. No doubt about that.

    But I am saying that in addition to that reality, I would support all Americans who earn dollar one to pay 5% federal income tax on that. And I would raise ALL tax brackets by 5 points each. In addition I would treat all income the same and get rid of the favorable discriminatory rates for things like capital gains and inheritance. Just tax it as income according to the applicable schedule.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    No more than they will ignore that the current policies aren't working to fix the broken system...
    When is the last time we had two consecutive years of growth in manufacturing jobs as we've had under this administration?
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you keep yammering about old tax rates as if those were fair or necessary.
    Wassamatta, couldn't back up your claim that the higher tax rates of the 90's put corporations out of business???
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