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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    If there were plenty of jobs available - and good wages for those jobs that are available - then they WOULD be paying Federal income taxes, wouldn't they?!?
    A typical conservative is good at spinning and twisting...he omits in his argument that his income is over $100K annually, that paying this 55% (this I believe) in taxes does NOT break him...
    Of course, if I had to pay 55% of my $40K income, then things would be too tight - no luxuries what-so-ever !
    And the millionaire, if he had to pay 60%, his life would still be "wonderful".
    We need a better people (millionaires) in this case....A "better people" would be more thankful for what they do have and complain less - and, IMO, be happier !

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by proud2Bcatholic View Post
    QUESTION: Does anyone think it is "fair" that almost 50% of American wage earners pay no Federal Income taxes at all? How is it "fair" that half of working Americans enjoy the protection of the military and the various benefits of government (what few there are) and don't pay one red cent for it?

    And while we're at it, who decides what is fair? Sean Hannity noted last night that when he adds up all the various taxes he pays, he pays 55% of his income in taxes. So for six months out of a year he hands over everything to the government. In my world, that is NOT fair.
    Then, the solution is for all to pay a flat tax of 10%... The working poor would have nothing left for "luxuries" of any sort. Hannity would have $90,000 to spend as he sees fit...
    Sensible... to a conservative.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    I just keep getting the feeling that we are discussing two different things. What I was trying to say was in response to Proud, was that he said these people don't pay "one red cent" while ONLY referencing FIT. My point was that there are other taxes that AREN'T FIT that poor will pay. I'm not suggesting we change the FIT on them at all at this point.
    Nice ESCAPE move there. So you have no point, just spew nonsense snippets of tax trivia? Like 50%!! As far as "what we are discussing", the thread is SUPPOSED to be discussing whether the rich/poor are being fairly taxed. I would further assert that ALL federal taxation should be considered AS A WHOLE (as they now exist). What is YOUR take on that? We know that some pay less taxes and some pay more taxes EVERYONE knows that. What NOBODY will EVER say, is just what IS fair? I am sick, to death, of all the "that is not fair" nonsense from people that REFUSE to say IN AN ACTUAL CONCRETE FASHION (e.g. % of gross income, % of net income, defining net income...) what IS fair. It seems critical, to me, to FIRST define "fair", and ONLY THEN to try to discuss "fair". ;-)
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    translation-you cannot refute what I said so your post is babble. Envy is what motivates the attack on those families frugal and smart enough to plan for future generations
    You said nothing of substance to refute or support. Just so much gossamer in the wind.

    You - yet again for a time beyond count or calculation - playing the ENVY card is evidence of your total intellectual bankruptcy on this issue.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Thank you. I now understand your attitude completely..........
    What, that I state the facts? Good for you.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by proud2Bcatholic View Post
    QUESTION: Does anyone think it is "fair" that almost 50% of American wage earners pay no Federal Income taxes at all? How is it "fair" that half of working Americans enjoy the protection of the military and the various benefits of government (what few there are) and don't pay one red cent for it?

    And while we're at it, who decides what is fair? Sean Hannity noted last night that when he adds up all the various taxes he pays, he pays 55% of his income in taxes. So for six months out of a year he hands over everything to the government. In my world, that is NOT fair.
    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Then, the solution is for all to pay a flat tax of 10%... The working poor would have nothing left for "luxuries" of any sort. Hannity would have $90,000 to spend as he sees fit...
    Sensible... to a conservative.
    I see. So its fair for a few folks to pay all the taxes. I get it.

    Hey, why stop there: Eliminate all sales taxes: Those hit the poor too. Eliminate cigarette and gasoline taxes and liquor taxes, those hit the poor real hard. That way we can just destroy those who are successful with 99% taxes until all there are left are poor people!!! Hello Soviet Union.

    Ironically, in your sarcasm, you actually had the right idea: A flat tax is fair. Its too bad you don't actually get that.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Nice ESCAPE move there. So you have no point, just spew nonsense snippets of tax trivia? Like 50%!! As far as "what we are discussing", the thread is SUPPOSED to be discussing whether the rich/poor are being fairly taxed. I would further assert that ALL federal taxation should be considered AS A WHOLE (as they now exist). What is YOUR take on that? We know that some pay less taxes and some pay more taxes EVERYONE knows that. What NOBODY will EVER say, is just what IS fair? I am sick, to death, of all the "that is not fair" nonsense from people that REFUSE to say IN AN ACTUAL CONCRETE FASHION (e.g. % of gross income, % of net income, defining net income...) what IS fair. It seems critical, to me, to FIRST define "fair", and ONLY THEN to try to discuss "fair". ;-)
    I DIDN'T make the 50% number. I took it from Proud. I don't understand taxes, so I don't debate them except to point out inaccuracies that I can.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    A typical conservative is good at spinning and twisting...he omits in his argument that his income is over $100K annually, that paying this 55% (this I believe) in taxes does NOT break him...
    Of course, if I had to pay 55% of my $40K income, then things would be too tight - no luxuries what-so-ever !
    And the millionaire, if he had to pay 60%, his life would still be "wonderful".
    We need a better people (millionaires) in this case....A "better people" would be more thankful for what they do have and complain less - and, IMO, be happier !
    what a load of entitlement mentality, envious crap.

    you are right about one thing though... a "better people" would be thankful for the crap that someone else is working to give them and wouldn't complain that those who are working to provide their support aren't working hard enough.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    When I see the well-to-do with their expensive cars and multiple homes, I know they can stand to pay a bit more taxes.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You said nothing of substance to refute or support. Just so much gossamer in the wind.

    You - yet again for a time beyond count or calculation - playing the ENVY card is evidence of your total intellectual bankruptcy on this issue.
    I think most people-reviewing your comments about silk diapers and how the rich ought grovel on their knees to keep their wealth-would conclude that your posts contain a tremendous amount of loathing and hatred for the rich that has no sound basis for these feelings

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