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Thread: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Your previous comment was about the progressiveness of the tax code. That link is about something else.
    That is exactly what politifact confirmed, that tax rates are less progressive. Did you miss this?

    "effective tax rates for high-income earners were either at their lowest since 1960 or very close to their lowest (at least according to the most recent data available)."
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    are we better off with the jobs those corporations supply and at the income taxes that come from it?
    What jobs? If trickle down theory had worked, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's pretty stupid- Do you know why families such as mine stay rich other than the fact we work hard and smart? because we don't waste money on stupid things. Envy is just so silly
    Such a statement - without accompanying data and proof - is simply more of your pompous pontifications based only on your own belief system. In other words, a typical normal Turtle post.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    QUESTION: Does anyone think it is "fair" that almost 50% of American wage earners pay no Federal Income taxes at all? How is it "fair" that half of working Americans enjoy the protection of the military and the various benefits of government (what few there are) and don't pay one red cent for it?

    And while we're at it, who decides what is fair? Sean Hannity noted last night that when he adds up all the various taxes he pays, he pays 55% of his income in taxes. So for six months out of a year he hands over everything to the government. In my world, that is NOT fair.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What jobs? If trickle down theory had worked, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
    you are being dishonest again. by defintion if that corporation that was whined about did not exist there would be LESS jobs

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Such a statement - without accompanying data and proof - is simply more of your pompous pontifications based only on your own belief system. In other words, a typical normal Turtle post.
    translation-you cannot refute what I said so your post is babble. Envy is what motivates the attack on those families frugal and smart enough to plan for future generations

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by proud2Bcatholic View Post
    QUESTION: Does anyone think it is "fair" that almost 50% of American wage earners pay no Federal Income taxes at all? How is it "fair" that half of working Americans enjoy the protection of the military and the various benefits of government (what few there are) and don't pay one red cent for it?

    And while we're at it, who decides what is fair? Sean Hannity noted last night that when he adds up all the various taxes he pays, he pays 55% of his income in taxes. So for six months out of a year he hands over everything to the government. In my world, that is NOT fair.
    Sean Hannity is a liar, first and foremost. Step back and examine just what Sean Hannity does, how he "works" for his "back breaking" living, before you swallow his overtaxed nonsense. First he needs a HUGE cable network, supported by masive corporate advertising, to provide his stage, research/production staff and then he pops on that stage for 1 hour per day (52 minutes w/o commercials), with perhaps a 3 hour prep/rehersal with his "guests" paid, not by Sean Hannity, but by the "his" network. For that "hard work" he gets massive amounts of money as a "salary", not to spew his brilliant and sage opinions, but to sell advertising time for "his" network. Sean Hannity is a TV "personality", nothing more. I understand that he also has a radio show, and he may even sell Amway, on the side, but let's look just at his cable TV job alone, which already puts him in the top 5% of income tax payers.

    Examine his actual federal taxation situation assuming a $200K salary (I have no idea what the real figure may be). He claims what as his "effective" federal tax rate? Let's say it is 33% (the top MARGINAL rate on $200K, or only 2% less than the "millionaire" rate) yet he REALLY pays 25.26% of his GROSS income in FIT or $50,528 in total taxes to the IRS (assuming "average" deductons). So where, and to whom, did Sean Hannity pay that remaining 30% ($59,482) of his income in taxes? Are we to assume that Sean Hannity is taxed any more that the average guy in NYC? Is Sean Hannity forced to live as he does? Is Sean Hannity willing to SHOW us his actual federal, state and city tax records? Someone should should call his bluff and make him show us those cards; lay them on the table for all to see.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by proud2Bcatholic View Post
    QUESTION: Does anyone think it is "fair" that almost 50% of American wage earners pay no Federal Income taxes at all? How is it "fair" that half of working Americans enjoy the protection of the military and the various benefits of government (what few there are) and don't pay one red cent for it?

    And while we're at it, who decides what is fair? Sean Hannity noted last night that when he adds up all the various taxes he pays, he pays 55% of his income in taxes. So for six months out of a year he hands over everything to the government. In my world, that is NOT fair.
    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Sean Hannity is a liar, first and foremost.............
    The only thing that charge proves is that YOU are a liar.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by proud2Bcatholic View Post
    QUESTION: Does anyone think it is "fair" that almost 50% of American wage earners pay no Federal Income taxes at all? How is it "fair" that half of working Americans enjoy the protection of the military and the various benefits of government (what few there are) and don't pay one red cent for it?

    And while we're at it, who decides what is fair? Sean Hannity noted last night that when he adds up all the various taxes he pays, he pays 55% of his income in taxes. So for six months out of a year he hands over everything to the government. In my world, that is NOT fair.
    Federal income taxes are not all the taxes one pays, keep in mind.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by proud2Bcatholic View Post
    QUESTION: Does anyone think it is "fair" that almost 50% of American wage earners pay no Federal Income taxes at all? How is it "fair" that half of working Americans enjoy the protection of the military and the various benefits of government (what few there are) and don't pay one red cent for it?

    And while we're at it, who decides what is fair? Sean Hannity noted last night that when he adds up all the various taxes he pays, he pays 55% of his income in taxes. So for six months out of a year he hands over everything to the government. In my world, that is NOT fair.
    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Federal income taxes are not all the taxes one pays, keep in mind.
    I know. Thats why I said "all the various taxes he pays".

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