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Thread: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It speaks to the fairness issue of the less progressive taxes we have today. (See the OP)
    The OP requests opinions on ‘Do the Rich pay their fair share’. Your post discusses the income growth between the 1% and the 60% middle income earners. I saw no ‘speaks to the fairness’ in the CBO analysis or their assertions concerning taxation. Please point it out…again EXACTLY.

    Or are you just flinging crap against the wall hoping some will stick...

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    The OP requests opinions on ‘Do the Rich pay their fair share’. Your post discusses the income growth between the 1% and the 60% middle income earners. I saw no ‘speaks to the fairness’ in the CBO analysis or their assertions concerning taxation. Please point it out…again EXACTLY.

    Or are you just flinging crap against the wall hoping some will stick...
    From the post you responded to:

    "Since 1979 the average pre-tax income for the bottom 90% of households has decreased by $900, while that of the top 1% increased by over $700,000, as federal taxation became less progressive."
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    From the post you responded to:

    "Since 1979 the average pre-tax income for the bottom 90% of households has decreased by $900, while that of the top 1% increased by over $700,000, as federal taxation became less progressive."
    Ok, and that speaks to 'CBO's assertion to fairness' how?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Ok, and that speaks to 'CBO's assertion to fairness' how?
    Making tax rates less progressive means the wealthy pay a lesser tax rate (known as the trickle down theory) which turned out to be the working class having to shoulder a greater share of the nation's debt. 30 years of that has contributed to the record wealth disparity in this country.

    Some are fine with that, and some aren't. That's why we have elections.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "According to the Congressional Budget Office, between 1979 and 2007 incomes of the top 1% of Americans grew by an average of 275%. During the same time period, the 60% of Americans in the middle of the income scale saw their income rise by 40%. Since 1979 the average pre-tax income for the bottom 90% of households has decreased by $900, while that of the top 1% increased by over $700,000, as federal taxation became less progressive."

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    Those #s are vague. They don't say whether or not they accounted for inflation. It's also hard to believe that the middle 60% could see a 40% increase while the bottom 90% saw a decrease.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?


    where is the first 150 years? where is the data for those who demand most of the government services?

    where are the 47% who don't pay federal income tax

    where are the people who use more services than they pay in taxes

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Okay...and this means what EXACTLY?
    it means that those who aren't successful but want more and more government , think that others ought to pay for what they want

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It speaks to the fairness issue of the less progressive taxes we have today. (See the OP)
    your entire premise is based on the assumption that a progressive tax is fair.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Can anyone explain to me why a flat tax, say 10% of your net income for EVERYONE, from the guy that makes 10k a year to the guy that makes 10 BILLION, why is this not ok? I think that is as fair as you can possibly be. That way everybody has a little meat in the pot and I think more people would care about where their money is being spent in Washington. With 47% of Americans not paying any income tax, what do they care how Washington wastes it? Make them have a little meat in the pot and I promise they would care.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by NotEliTanenbaum View Post
    What do you think?
    The rich pay almost all the taxes!!

    This fair share crap is total bunk

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