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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    The government should have NOTHING to do with the economy at ALL.
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    As soon as you show me links to prove the point you made above (which I have asked you for numerous times now)...I will be pleased to provide links to unbiased evidence to support a position I have made.

    I have already posted many links to unbiased facts to attempt to prove my points...you have not (to my knowledge)...dude.
    There is no such historic data so don't bother telling tall tales.

    Pie-in-the-sky ideals don't count and neither does Ayn Rand's valley from Atlas Shrugged. LOL!
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    There is no such historic data so don't bother telling tall tales.

    Pie-in-the-sky ideals don't count and neither does Ayn Rand's valley from Atlas Shrugged. LOL!
    So for - what is it the fifth time - I have asked this guy to back up his claim with a link to unbiased, factual data.

    And yet again he refuses.

    I give up.


    Just let me know MS when you can answer the question...I have things i would rather do then this silly back-and-forth.


    Have a nice day.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    The 47% Myth: Just Who Pays Income Tax, Anyway?

    "In 2008, according to the preliminary numbers, 142 million Federal income tax returns were filed, 51 million of which had no income tax liability on them. That's about 36%. Lotsa deadbeats, huh?

    But of the 91 million returns filed that did have tax liability, 63 million or so were married filing jointly. So those 91 million tax returns actually represent 174 million people, and doesn't include the children of those people, for the most part. That's about 53% of the population, which is where the infamous 47% number came from.


    So, who are these 150 million or so people who pay no income tax? Well, at least 60 million of them are children under 15. Goddamm deadbeat children! They should be paying their fair share! Close to another 40 million are over 65. While many people over 65 have enough income to have income tax liability, they are a minority. At least 25 million of these people are living on Social Security and not much else. Hence, no tax liability.


    So, that leaves about 65 million working age adults who are paying no income tax. About 20% of the overall population. Lucky them. Most aren't making enough money to have to pay, period. Some are disabled, some are students...there are many reasons why. but most are just poor and poorly paid."

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The 47% Myth: Just Who Pays Income Tax, Anyway?
    Weird but the article supports that 47% do not pay income tax??? I understand their point is WHY the don't but the underlying claim '47%...' was unsuccessfully refuted specifically.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Weird but the article supports that 47% do not pay income tax??? I understand their point is WHY the don't but the underlying claim '47%...' was unsuccessfully refuted specifically.
    Sure, if you ignore that most are kids, the disabled and the elderly.

    Is that your proposal to solve our deficit, tax kids, the disabled and the elderly more?
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Is that your proposal to solve our deficit, tax kids, the disabled and the elderly more?
    Nice try…I proposed nothing but rather merely attempted to point out that your post seemed ironic. The article claimed the 47% was a myth then substantiated the 47% with facts thus disproving the myth they suggested…that’s all.

    MY proposal for ‘fixing the deficit’ does not belong in this thread…

    Further, since this thread IS about 'rich taxation' hasn't it been subtantiated in MANY threads that the 'rich' do not make enought to address the deficit even modestly?
    Last edited by Dickieboy; 06-08-12 at 01:50 PM.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    "According to the Congressional Budget Office, between 1979 and 2007 incomes of the top 1% of Americans grew by an average of 275%. During the same time period, the 60% of Americans in the middle of the income scale saw their income rise by 40%. Since 1979 the average pre-tax income for the bottom 90% of households has decreased by $900, while that of the top 1% increased by over $700,000, as federal taxation became less progressive."

    Distribution of wealth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "According to the Congressional Budget Office, between 1979 and 2007 incomes of the top 1% of Americans grew by an average of 275%. During the same time period, the 60% of Americans in the middle of the income scale saw their income rise by 40%. Since 1979 the average pre-tax income for the bottom 90% of households has decreased by $900, while that of the top 1% increased by over $700,000, as federal taxation became less progressive."

    Distribution of wealth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Okay...and this means what EXACTLY?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Okay...and this means what EXACTLY?
    It speaks to the fairness issue of the less progressive taxes we have today. (See the OP)
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