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Thread: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    But MANY taxation rates vary. The sales tax rate on food is ZERO, yet for a shirt it is 8.25%, for liquor 11.25%. So what if the rate for investment income is different. Some people even get a NEGATIVE income tax rate (EITC), yet you do not complain about that being "unfair". Exxon gets 6.2 cents per gallon of gasoline in profit (after paying all of the expenses to get it there), the federal tax on that same gallon of gasoline is 42 cents, is that "fair"?
    I wouldn't use that ZERO too much because in other places sales taxes are all the same.

    Why should investment income be treated any differently than any other kind of income? If I bet on RED instead of IBM my winnings get taxed the same as any other kind of income. What makes betting on IBM so special?

    Is it fair that we pay for our road maintenance using the amount of gasoline we purchase? But that's exactly the kind of system many people - like TD - want to see for everything! In this case I agree with TD. Using a fuel tax to pay for road maintenance has a certain symmetry to it that I like.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I see you have. I provided info in the post as a courtesy. If you dont like it tough. Now kindly go piss in the wind you cranky bastard.
    It's common to use the quote tags if you copy paste - followed by a link to the quote. N00b!!!!
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    If you are sorry employee that just plain sucks, then you are correct. If you bust your ass and help the company be profitable, then the employer would be an idiot. It is very hard these days to get good employees, its one of the reasons I don't employ people. I really do wish it was a bit easier to find them. Its not the experiance or training aspect those are easily rectified. Its the attitude. Very few people anymore have got the attitude I consider nessary for success. I want my cutomers who use me to be extremly satisfied with the service they recieve. I dont want the level of service I provide to drop off when I am not there. I have tried before and have doubled the industy standard wages ( about $40 hr.) I still had to sift wheat from chaff. You have to have patience to go through the fools to get real gold. I dont have it. Its easier for me to use contractors and if they suck just not use them. If an employer is so stupid as to rid themselfs of a good employee I can assure you that employee WILL be appreaciated elsewhere.
    You seem to think all employees suck. My point has been made, thank you.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    the world is governed by global firms ,it must be an enough answer
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I wouldn't use that ZERO too much because in other places sales taxes are all the same.

    Why should investment income be treated any differently than any other kind of income? If I bet on RED instead of IBM my winnings get taxed the same as any other kind of income. What makes betting on IBM so special?

    Is it fair that we pay for our road maintenance using the amount of gasoline we purchase? But that's exactly the kind of system many people - like TD - want to see for everything! In this case I agree with TD. Using a fuel tax to pay for road maintenance has a certain symmetry to it that I like.
    WRONG. If you win less than $600 on RED you get it instantly, anonymously and tax free, just like for a lottery scratch-off ticket. Try that with an IBM bet.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    It's common to use the quote tags if you copy paste - followed by a link to the quote. N00b!!!!
    Thanks for the tip. If you bother to pay attention, you would notice I am a noob.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    You seem to think all employees suck. My point has been made, thank you.
    You seem to have a problem with your reading comprehension. I suggest you try again. The whole point of an employee is to make a profit. If you cant make a profit with an employee you arent gona be in business long. I have a service buisness, I pride myself in the level of service I provide. I WILL NOT see it drop off because I have an employee. If I cant find an employee that can do it to MY standards then I wont hire one. Thats how get and KEEP my customers. Bottom line not ALL employees suck. Just most of em.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    WRONG. If you win less than $600 on RED you get it instantly, anonymously and tax free, just like for a lottery scratch-off ticket. Try that with an IBM bet.
    WRONG!

    You're still supposed to report that as income. If you don't report it as income then you are breaking the law. Sorry, just because many people do it a lot doesn't mean it's legal.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Same old TD. Poor little rich me!
    I wasn't talking about me-I was talking about those who think others ought to pay for what you want. I certainly don't demand that you pay for what I use. I don't impose costs on you so why do you feel that you are entitled to make others pay to fund your existence?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I wasn't talking about me-I was talking about those who think others ought to pay for what you want. I certainly don't demand that you pay for what I use. I don't impose costs on you so why do you feel that you are entitled to make others pay to fund your existence?
    The hell you don't! As just one example you are supporting the candidate that want's to spend more of taxpayers money on the military than the rest of the world combined to increase the riches of the 1%.
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