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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    If you had a loan at any time in your life, then I am afaid sir, you already bought it. So sorry.
    Investment income it still not earned - so sorry!

    But you should be happy, it's not subject to earnings taxes, either.
    Last edited by MoSurveyor; 06-05-12 at 03:51 PM.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Same old TD. Poor little rich me!
    I all I got to say is dont steal from me. If you like taxes so much use the little box on the bottom of your tax form and donate some more. I promise your government wont waste a bit of it. Really.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    PS You get what you negotiate. If you dont negotiate you get whats givin. If you want more ask. You may be pleasently surprised.
    Or more likely your employer will start looking for your replacement and show you the door when he finds it.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Let's get the story straight, shall we? An Amendment starts out being passed by Congress but at least 3/4 of the States must pass it as well. The way you've told this story you've tried to pin it all on Congress but that's just not the way things work in this country. All the States except Connecticut, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia, Florida, and Pennsylvania have ratified this Amendment. Alaska and Hawaii were not States at the time.
    I just pasted from WIKI which I cited in the little bracket thingies. If you have a problem take it up with them. I believe the assumption was that people knew of the admendment process. You know what they say about assuming.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Investment income it still not earned - so sorry!

    But you should be happy, it's not subject to earnings taxes, either.
    Correct. Wasnt argueing that point. I would be much happier if it was not taxed at all.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I just pasted from WIKI which I cited in the little bracket thingies. If you have a problem take it up with them. I believe the assumption was that people knew of the admendment process. You know what they say about assuming.
    I take it up with you.

    Hell, if copy/paste is all you can do then post a link next time and we'll click for ourselves.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Haha!

    So you'd believe words by Henry Paulson, Bush's Secretary of the Treasury and CEO of Goldman Sachs (ever so slight conflict of interest there), because he was in a Presidential Cabinet? Or does he just get dismissed because he served under an elected official you do not agree with?

    You might want to wipe off that kool-aid mustache and expand further on your opinions here. I'm listening.
    Let's see how your bio stacks up against Bruce Bartlett. Here is his bio:

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    MINE was, that doesn't mean most investment income went the same route. I'm sure somewhere back in the dawn of time it was all earned but you could be talking generations ago.


    Besides, what does it matter? My earning get taxed. Then I buy stuff and it's taxed, again. Then the company I bought from gets the profit taxed. AND?

    Money circulates and when it changes hands it gets taxed. That's the way the it works.
    But MANY taxation rates vary. The sales tax rate on food is ZERO, yet for a shirt it is 8.25%, for liquor 11.25%. So what if the rate for investment income is different. Some people even get a NEGATIVE income tax rate (EITC), yet you do not complain about that being "unfair". Exxon gets 6.2 cents per gallon of gasoline in profit (after paying all of the expenses to get from the under the ground and to the gas pump), the federal tax on that same gallon of gasoline is 42 cents, is that "fair"?
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Or more likely your employer will start looking for your replacement and show you the door when he finds it.
    If you are sorry employee that just plain sucks, then you are correct. If you bust your ass and help the company be profitable, then the employer would be an idiot. It is very hard these days to get good employees, its one of the reasons I don't employ people. I really do wish it was a bit easier to find them. Its not the experiance or training aspect those are easily rectified. Its the attitude. Very few people anymore have got the attitude I consider nessary for success. I want my cutomers who use me to be extremly satisfied with the service they recieve. I dont want the level of service I provide to drop off when I am not there. I have tried before and have doubled the industy standard wages ( about $40 hr.) I still had to sift wheat from chaff. You have to have patience to go through the fools to get real gold. I dont have it. Its easier for me to use contractors and if they suck just not use them. If an employer is so stupid as to rid themselfs of a good employee I can assure you that employee WILL be appreaciated elsewhere.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I take it up with you.

    Hell, if copy/paste is all you can do then post a link next time and we'll click for ourselves.
    I see you have. I provided info in the post as a courtesy. If you dont like it tough. Now kindly go piss in the wind you cranky bastard.
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