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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if the governments were limited to what they were intended to do, then it would be possible. of course those who whine the most for more taxation (of others usually) are the ones who demand more and more government.
    I really doubt that. I don't think even if we stepped back to government only doing what it was explicitly allowed to do in federal and state constitutions, that a 10% total tax rate would be enough to support all local, state, and federal government spending together.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I really doubt that. I don't think even if we stepped back to government only doing what it was explicitly allowed to do in federal and state constitutions, that a 10% total tax rate would be enough to support all local, state, and federal government spending together.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    The "rich" get that way as they over-charge for thie good and services.
    This, I consider to be a "sin".
    Our government must tax them more.
    If we have a better people, this would not be a debate nor a problem.
    Of course, we must keep things in a balance - we must be fair..
    In truth, I feel that most "rich" deserve to be this way.....but, a baseball player, is he really worth one thousand dollars per pitch during competition ???
    As to a flat tax vs a progressive tax.....
    Do we have more thoughtless, selfish people here than caring people ?
    If so, our nation is in its dieing years.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    The "rich" get that way as they over-charge for thie good and services.
    This, I consider to be a "sin".
    Our government must tax them more.
    If we have a better people, this would not be a debate nor a problem.
    Of course, we must keep things in a balance - we must be fair..
    In truth, I feel that most "rich" deserve to be this way.....but, a baseball player, is he really worth one thousand dollars per pitch during competition ???
    As to a flat tax vs a progressive tax.....
    Do we have more thoughtless, selfish people here than caring people ?
    If so, our nation is in its dieing years.
    Nonsense. Did Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Stevie Nicks, Steve Martin or Payton Manning get rich by riping people off or over charging? I would assert that they were voluntarily rewarded for excelling in thier fields of endevour. They all had skills and talents that got rewarded, by their exercising of those skills and talents in a free market. A doctor, lawyer or indian chief get rewarded because they provide a needed service. More valuable or in demand services get higher compensation than a burger flipper commands, not because they rip off people or over charge but because they offer goods and services that people are WILLING to pay more for. Why go to medical school for 7 or 8 years to make minimum wage? Why pay more than minimum wage for a low skilled worker?
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    The tax problems that we have today...isn't about the rich. It's about a tax code system that allows government to keep us all under their control and to manipulate the ways that they construct their power.

    Look folks. Until you can forget about liberalism and conservatism being the guiding tenets in our political structure in our government and call it what it really is, which is POWERISM, we'll forever be ****ed to death by our elected officials. That's the facts Jack. Wake the **** up.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Hello Earthworm. You my friend are a TROLL consider yourself called out. Happy Trolling.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Nonsense. Did Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Stevie Nicks, Steve Martin or Payton Manning get rich by riping people off or over charging? I would assert that they were voluntarily rewarded for excelling in thier fields of endevour. They all had skills and talents that got rewarded, by their exercising of those skills and talents in a free market. A doctor, lawyer or indian chief get rewarded because they provide a needed service. More valuable or in demand services get higher compensation than a burger flipper commands, not because they rip off people or over charge but because they offer goods and services that people are WILLING to pay more for. Why go to medical school for 7 or 8 years to make minimum wage? Why pay more than minimum wage for a low skilled worker?
    Dont count out the good burger flipping dudes they get good money too, Ya know.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Dont count out the good burger flipping dudes they get good money too, Ya know.

    PS You get what you negotiate. If you dont negotiate you get whats givin. If you want more ask. You may be pleasently surprised.
    More likely you will be laughed at, in low wage/skill jobs, and shown the pile of pending applications. Si se puede! (yes we can!) ;-)
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    More likely you will be laughed at, in low wage/skill jobs, and shown the pile of pending applications. Si se puede! (yes we can!) ;-)
    You might be surprised espeacially if you been at the company for a length of time. Very rarely does it hurt to ask. By the way a skilled burger flipper is paid a pretty good wage out here in California, ever heard of In and Out Hamburgers? They are only the best chain burger you can get anywhere in the States. I am fortunate to have one not too far from me. Tasty Goodness. In and Out pays at the higher end of the wage scale for restraunts in general let alone burger joints. It shows in their product. Damn fine burgers.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Are Taxes in the U.S. High or Low?

    "Historically, the term “tax rate” has meant the average or effective tax rate — that is, taxes as a share of income. The broadest measure of the tax rate is total federal revenues divided by the gross domestic product.

    By this measure, federal taxes are at their lowest level in more than 60 years. The Congressional Budget Office estimated that federal taxes would consume just 14.8 percent of G.D.P. this year. The last year in which revenues were lower was 1950, according to the Office of Management and Budget.

    The postwar annual average is about 18.5 percent of G.D.P. Revenues averaged 18.2 percent of G.D.P. during Ronald Reagan’s administration; the lowest percentage during that administration was 17.3 percent of G.D.P. in 1984.

    In short, by the broadest measure of the tax rate, the current level is unusually low and has been for some time. Revenues were 14.9 percent of G.D.P. in both 2009 and 2010.

    Yet if one listens to Republicans, one would think that taxes have never been higher, that an excessive tax burden is the most important constraint holding back economic growth and that a big tax cut is exactly what the economy needs to get growing again."

    Bruce Bartlett: Are Taxes in the U.S. High or Low? - NYTimes.com
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