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Thread: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Exactly why I think privatizing the SSA is the stupidest idea yet!!!

    It's still not "earned" - it's a bet people make with money. If they wanted to keep their money safe they would have put it in a savings account instead of a 401k.
    The only people that believe investments arent earned are people with no investments. I get it. Its 'magic'.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    That's a big assumption to take thinking it starts as wages somewhere.
    Oh really? Where did you get your initial money? Was it not earned (and taxed) by someone?
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The original FIT at the time of the 16th amendment was at rates of 1%, 2% and 3% (top rate). Federal gov't was much smaller then, as the constitution was taken seriously, and the role of the federal gov't was actually limitted by it.
    You must be getting your info somewhere else than I am.

    This site says that the highest bracket in 1913 just after the passage of the 16th amendment paid 7%.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    You've posted this a million times so I'll address it. Change the deduction to 4x the poverty level and adjust the tax rate as needed to fit.
    So what you want is a luxury tax, not really an income tax. We (my family) make less than that, yet now pay FIT. How "progressive" of you.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I like how they compare the Fair Tax only to the Income tax, when the Fair Tax replaces all Federal taxation.... oh, and how they didn't even score the Fair Tax, but rather their own marked-up altered version.


    But you continue to try to dodge and divert. A flat tax on income is a flat tax. A regressive tax on income is bracketed, with higher rates at the lower brackets.
    Most people are not gullible enough to fall for a flat tax, that is why all the president candidates that propose it go down in flames.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    You must be getting your info somewhere else than I am.

    This site says that the highest bracket in 1913 just after the passage of the 16th amendment paid 7%.
    Did ANY return actually pay that 7% rate? I was under the impression that the highest ACTUALLY paid was 3% in the first year.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    You've posted this a million times so I'll address it. Change the deduction to 4x the poverty level and adjust the tax rate as needed to fit.
    4x the poverty level is WAY too high. The poverty level for a family of 4 is $23,050. 4x that would be $92,200. A family of 4 living on $92,200 should absolutely be paying taxes. 1.25x or 1.5x the poverty level would be FAR more reasonable.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Did ANY return actually pay that 7% rate? I was under the impression that the highest ACTUALLY paid was 3% in the first year.
    No idea. I don't know what sorts of deductions were available to reduce the effective tax rate. And I don't know if the definition of 'income' was the same when it was first passed as it is today.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flippinfunky View Post
    Nope, they sure dont.
    this ought to be an interesting claim to expand upon

    paying almost twice as much of the income tax burden as their share of the income is not enough?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Not true at all. I simply wish to be left the **** alone, but since I'm in a certain tax bracket, some people just won't rest until every dime my family has belongs to the government. Those people can eat a bowl of dicks.
    The "logic" of the tax hikers is such that as long as anyone has disposable income after expenses that should be subject to more and more taxes as long as others "cannot afford" the level of government the liberals think those people deserve


    a major component of taxes ought to be based on what you get in return not merely what you can "afford" to pay because the parasitic left will always claim if you have money to invest, you can afford more and more taxes

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