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Thread: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The rich will pay the lowest taxes since the Hoover Administration over 80 years ago

    "Today clinched it. American voters can now see for themselves that Republicans are protectorates of the wealthiest and Big Oil — just in case they weren’t aware of this previously. Medicare is taking a dive in order to give the wealthy more dominance over this country.

    The Paul Ryan budget would make life miserable for the elderly, the middle class, and life more cushy for the 1% who will be getting a $265,000 tax cut on top of what they get from the Bush tax cuts for the rich.

    Center on Budget and Policy priorities reports:

    The Ryan budget includes a number of specific tax cuts, on top of making the Bush tax cuts permanent. All of its new tax cuts are both expensive and tilted toward high-income households. It would cut the top individual tax rate to 25 percent, the lowest level
    since the Hoover Administration more than 80 years ago. It would cut the corporate rate to 25 percent and eliminate both the Alternative Minimum Tax and the Affordable Care Act’s increase in the Medicare tax for high-income people.

    A new TPC analysis finds that people with incomes above $1 million would receive a $265,000 average annual tax cut just from the new Ryan proposals (i.e., not counting what they would also receive from extension of the Bush tax cuts). Middle-income taxpayers — those with incomes between $50,000 and $75,000 — would receive $1,045, on average".

    The rich will pay the lowest taxes since the Hoover Administration over 80 years ago – FreakOutNation
    And yet they still pay more in tax dollars than everyone else combined. A single tear rolls down my cheek.

    It's really quite simple: if you don't pay taxes (or pay minimal taxes) you don't get a big reduction when taxes are cut.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    And yet they still pay more in tax dollars than everyone else combined. A single tear rolls down my cheek.

    It's really quite simple: if you don't pay taxes (or pay minimal taxes) you don't get a big reduction when taxes are cut.


    the parasite advocates never acknowledge that EVERYONE Else is paying less taxes too yet they tend to keep demanding more and more government. Hint-the Rich weren't the ones the Obamacare BS was designed to pander to

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    And yet they still pay more in tax dollars than everyone else combined. A single tear rolls down my cheek.
    No they do not, which is why you couldn't prove a source to back up that claim. They own more of the nations wealth. 6 people in the US own more wealth than 30% of US citizens. Hardly a big surprise and doesn't negate that the GOP's tax cuts proposed for the rich would mean the lowest tax rates in over 80 years.

    Without the job creation the Bush tax cuts were to provide, there is no reason for voters to continue to allow them, much less to give the rich a couple hundred thousand more in tax cuts at the expense of our seniors. So save your tears when the voters disallow the tax cuts for the rich in November.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No they do not, which is why you couldn't prove a source to back up that claim. They own more of the nations wealth. 6 people in the US own more wealth than 30% of US citizens. Hardly a big surprise and doesn't negate that the GOP's tax cuts proposed for the rich would mean the lowest tax rates in over 80 years.

    Without the job creation the Bush tax cuts were to provide, there is no reason for voters to continue to allow them, much less to give the rich a couple hundred thousand more in tax cuts at the expense of our seniors. So save your tears when the voters disallow the tax cuts for the rich in November.

    it is dishonest and stupid to whine about wealth when we are talking about taxes on income. taxes on income are bad enough but taxes on wealth are an abomination since many forms of wealth do not generate income (i.e. the revenue needed to pay taxes)

    there is no reason for us taxpayers to continue to fund parasites who do nothing but demand more and more of our wealth. Your idiotic rants that all wealth should be subject to the whims of the voters is an appeal the the tyranny of mediocrity

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    it is dishonest and stupid to whine about wealth when we are talking about taxes on income.
    I see you could not provide evidence of the claim either. Now there is a big surprise! LOL!
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I see you could not provide evidence of the claim either. Now there is a big surprise! LOL!

    why do you demand "proof" of the obvious? is that because you cannot refute the points I make or because you feel a need to somehow respond and that is the best you can do. We have an income tax not a wealth tax so whining about wealth is irrelevant

    do you think non income generating wealth-bought with income that has already been taxed-should also be taxed

    In other words if I make 100K and pay 20K in taxes and I take 20K from that 80K remaining and buy say some gold should I be taxed each year on the value of that gold as well?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I see you could not provide evidence of the claim either. Now there is a big surprise! LOL!

    I guess you cannot figure out that it is my opinion that its stupid to talk about wealth when we are talking about taxes on income. Other than the death tax there is no wealth tax in our federal system

    you never provide any evidence for your babbling that the masses should not allow (LOL) the rich to have tax cuts

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess you cannot figure out that it is my opinion that its stupid to talk about wealth when we are talking about taxes on income. Other than the death tax there is no wealth tax in our federal system

    you never provide any evidence for your babbling that the masses should not allow (LOL) the rich to have tax cuts
    There is no credible reason for voters to continue to allow the tax cuts for the wealthy, but several reasons to disallow them.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess you cannot figure out that it is my opinion that its stupid to talk about wealth when we are talking about taxes on income. Other than the death tax there is no wealth tax in our federal system

    you never provide any evidence for your babbling that the masses should not allow (LOL) the rich to have tax cuts
    Oh dear goodness you worse than people you complain about when your hog is so fat

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    It is a big game to the "poor". They don't have it... They want it...(but don't want to have to earn it) they will lie through their teeth to get it...
    Ahhhh, you seem to forget the poor create ALL WEALTH. the RICH create nothing without th poor. So YES they did earn it. ALL OF IT.

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