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Thread: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You complained about them paying no taxes...................

    Please show where I said "destitute and the disabled" should pay more taxes. Thank you.

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Make you case then to the people that you believe the way to address 3 decades of national debt due to tax cuts for the wealthy, excessive military spending, and financial deregulation, is to tax the destitute and the disabled.
    :raises eyebrow: why would I do so when I don't argue that we need to raise taxes on the destitute/disabled in order to pay down the debt?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Please show where I said "destitute and the disabled" should pay more taxes. Thank you.
    You said the people that don't pay any taxes at all should be taxed. As I pointed out, the only people who don't pay any taxes at all are the destitute and the disabled.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You said the people that don't pay any taxes at all should be taxed. As I pointed out, the only people who don't pay any taxes at all are the destitute and the disabled.


    The "only" people who don't pay taxes are in this group? Really? Got proof?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    :raises eyebrow: why would I do so when I don't argue that we need to raise taxes on the destitute/disabled in order to pay down the debt?
    That isn't what you implied here: http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1060631926
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    The "only" people who don't pay taxes are in this group? Really? Got proof?
    Who except the destitute and disabled don't pay payroll taxes and sales taxes?
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Who except the destitute and disabled don't pay payroll taxes and sales taxes?


    Now I know you've heard that 48+-% don't pay any taxes. Now are you telling me that almost half of the taxpayers in the US are destitute or disabled?


    I have a question for you. When/if the 48% non-payers becomes 50 to 52% what happens?

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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Now I know you've heard that 48+-% don't pay any taxes. Now are you telling me that almost half of the taxpayers in the US are destitute or disabled?
    That 48% figure referred only to federal income tax. You said people who don't pay any taxes at all.


    I have a question for you. When/if the 48% non-payers becomes 50 to 52% what happens?

    FIT accounts for less than half the Federal taxes, and only 14% pay no taxes, mostly the destitute and the disabled.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Now I know you've heard that 48+-% don't pay any taxes. Now are you telling me that almost half of the taxpayers in the US are destitute or disabled?


    I have a question for you. When/if the 48% non-payers becomes 50 to 52% what happens?
    That is what worries me the most. Once we have more voters than FIT payers there is a HUGE political advantage to making FIT payers fund ever more wonderful "vote buying" programs for the masses. It is very easy to be generous with other people's money.
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    Re: Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That is what worries me the most. Once we have more voters than FIT payers there is a HUGE political advantage to making FIT payers fund ever more wonderful "vote buying" programs for the masses. It is very easy to be generous with other people's money.
    Is it your contention that the 48% that pay no FIT do so because they enjoy living in or near poverty, or do you think it could be due to the unemployment, and underemployment due to the recession and outsourcing?
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