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    Re: Should Uninformed Citizens Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    If one was needed to be created...
    I haven't seen any that would fit with the uninformed part, unless you wish to lower the standards all the way to the questions as presented earlier.

    Or increase the standards a bit with the like of the following.
    Like add a few more about our elective system, Constitution and whether we are a Republic or a Democracy.
    Ok, this is basic civil knowledge, but where does it show that someone is informed about the issues of the day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    As for intelligence.
    I think that could be a function of our average National IQ.
    If you have an IQ lower than (X) many points below the average, you will not qualify.
    IQ <> knowledge.

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    Re: Should Uninformed Citizens Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Ok, this is basic civil knowledge, but where does it show that someone is informed about the issues of the day?
    It doesn't. Why should they be informed of the issues of the day?
    Especially when those issues may not concern them.



    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    IQ <> knowledge.
    In general, IQ represent reasoning.
    It would be a general indicator that your choice was reasoned.

    Or instead, they could require a certain score/combined even, from something like the Military ASVAB, ACT or SAT.

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    Re: Should Uninformed Citizens Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    It doesn't. Why should they be informed of the issues of the day?
    Especially when those issues may not concern them.
    At its core, voting is a voice in government trying to sway it in one way or another.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    In general, IQ represent reasoning.
    It would be a general indicator that your choice was reasoned.

    Or instead, they could require a certain score/combined even, from something like the Military ASVAB, ACT or SAT.
    There is no specific tie to politics. One could possess a great amount of intelligence and not be motivated to use it and another could possess a moderate amount of intelligence and a ethic for hard work and self improvement. Which is more deserving in your system?

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    Re: Should Uninformed Citizens Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by NotEliTanenbaum View Post
    Note that I'm not asking if uninformed citizens should be allowed to vote. I'm just whether you think they should vote.

    Maybe having some sort of quiz or test before allowing someone to vote might not be such a bad idea.

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    Re: Should Uninformed Citizens Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    Maybe having some sort of quiz or test before allowing someone to vote might not be such a bad idea.
    I am sorry, someone named Johnny Rebson suggesting this is hilarious, given this nation's history.

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    Re: Should Uninformed Citizens Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    At its core, voting is a voice in government trying to sway it in one way or another.
    Please explain how that has anything to do with the previous exchange.
    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Ok, this is basic civil knowledge, but where does it show that someone is informed about the issues of the day?
    It doesn't. Why should they be informed of the issues of the day?
    Especially when those issues may not concern them.


    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    There is no specific tie to politics. One could possess a great amount of intelligence and not be motivated to use it and another could possess a moderate amount of intelligence and a ethic for hard work and self improvement. Which is more deserving in your system?
    Intelligence.
    If you are dumb as a box of rocks, you shouldn't be voting, no mater how hard you work.

    And as far as I know, a moderate amount of intelligence would put a person on par with average.

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    Re: Should Uninformed Citizens Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Please explain how that has anything to do with the previous exchange.


    Intelligence.
    If you are dumb as a box of rocks, you shouldn't be voting, no mater how hard you work.

    And as far as I know, a moderate amount of intelligence would put a person on par with average.
    now will people get their intelligence measured before voting
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    Re: Should Uninformed Citizens Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Please explain how that has anything to do with the previous exchange.
    ...

    Ok well, if you can't see it, I will explain it to you, even though I just did.

    People have concerns.
    Things happen, this is called current events.

    Ok, keep these two things in mind.

    People react to current events with their concerns and sometimes want a solution.

    People vote to improve their lives.

    People improving their lives has lots to do with their concerns being addressed.

    This is why elections tend to have themes in any given cycle. This time around its mainly about jobs and the economy.


    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Intelligence.
    If you are dumb as a box of rocks, you shouldn't be voting, no mater how hard you work.

    And as far as I know, a moderate amount of intelligence would put a person on par with average.
    You do realize that raw intelligence and applied intelligence are different concepts, right?

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    Re: Should Uninformed Citizens Vote?

    I'll do you one better. Those without property should not be voting.

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    Re: Should Uninformed Citizens Vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I'll do you one better. Those without property should not be voting.

    we'd have a far different history if that were true

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