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Who Loses Better?

Pinkie

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IYE, which side loses better, with more grace and a willingness to work with the elected officials they never wanted?

Dagnabit, I meant to add a poll!

(1) Democrats

(2) Republicans

(3) Third party members
 
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where's the poll?
 
Pinkie said:
IYE, which side loses better, with more grace and a willingness to work with the elected officials they never wanted?

Dagnabit, I meant to add a poll!

(1) Democrats

(2) Republicans

(3) Third party members
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This goes back and forth the way I see it...sometimes its democrats, sometimes its republicans...

We saw in the last congress how Pelosi treated the republicans with obamacare....but right now today its the GOP that are stonewalling and no one can deny that with a straight face
 
lpast said:
This goes back and forth the way I see it...sometimes its democrats, sometimes its republicans...

We saw in the last congress how Pelosi treated the republicans with obamacare....but right now today its the GOP that are stonewalling and no one can deny that with a straight face
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I guess it depends on whether you're looking at state or national politics. Ohio, like many states is at present almost completely GOP-run. (Cleveland and the county it sits in, by contrast, is almost completely Democratically-controlled. This has apparently been true for over a century and does not seem like it will ever change.)

All of this is strange because of the landslide in 2010. The GOP took the House and nearly took the Senate. When Congress and the White House are of totally different parties, it's natural for them to go to the mattresses. I'd be surprised if they did anything else.

But in a year with more normal results -- let's say Romney wins and the GOP hangs on to at least the House -- will Democrats behave better and find ways to work compromises with Republicans, IYO?

If the reverse happens, Obama wins and the House returns to Democratic control, will (most) Republicans become more flexible?

As for the voters: among people you know, when the results of an election are the exact opposite of what they hoped for, who feels anger the most or the longest, IYE?
 
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I thnk third party. They don't expect to win and are pleased with a good showing which can also be translated to "none of the above."
 
lpast said:
This goes back and forth the way I see it...sometimes its democrats, sometimes its republicans...

We saw in the last congress how Pelosi treated the republicans with obamacare....but right now today its the GOP that are stonewalling and no one can deny that with a straight face
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I agree that it goes back and forth as to who is better of the main parties. Definitely third party loses best because they have the most practice.

I also agree the right is stonewalling the left-wing movements. However, that is what they promised to do to get elected. They were running on stopping the current administrations' spending and policies. They have also introduced tons of legislation themselves that has been simply ignored and won't see a vote any time soon.

I actually think both sides make horrible losers and winners. Decorum is not the forte of politicians.
 
justabubba said:
well those pollacks need to hurry up and post it on line
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They may have posted it, but likely it's on another forum. Check in DP Rules, Sports, or maybe in one of the Zimmerman threads.
 
Keridan said:
I agree that it goes back and forth as to who is better of the main parties. Definitely third party loses best because they have the most practice.

I also agree the right is stonewalling the left-wing movements. However, that is what they promised to do to get elected. They were running on stopping the current administrations' spending and policies. They have also introduced tons of legislation themselves that has been simply ignored and won't see a vote any time soon.

I actually think both sides make horrible losers and winners. Decorum is not the forte of politicians.
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What about voters? People you know? Does the average Republican lose better, IYO?

I agree about third party voters. I often wonder about people who vote for a man like Raplh Nader for President every election. What could possibly be the pay off?
 
Risky Thicket said:
They may have posted it, but likely it's on another forum. Check in DP Rules, Sports, or maybe in one of the Zimmerman threads.
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Lord have mercy; once you hit post the first time, DP is not programmed to permit you to add a poll, and I made a mistake in doing this. Should I be horsewhipped for it?

Did you want a poll on that question as well?
 
Pinkie said:
Lord have mercy; once you hit post the first time, DP is not programmed to permit you to add a poll, and I made a mistake in doing this. Should I be horsewhipped for it?

Did you want a poll on that question as well?
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you misunderstand, pinky

risky and i are riffing on the pollacks inability to effectively erect the poll

what part of eastern europe is your heritage?
 
Pinkie said:
Lord have mercy; once you hit post the first time, DP is not programmed to permit you to add a poll, and I made a mistake in doing this. Should I be horsewhipped for it?

Did you want a poll on that question as well?
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To tell you the truth, I've never done a poll. Well, not on DP. I did do a Pole from New Jersey once.
 
Pinkie said:
Lord have mercy; once you hit post the first time, DP is not programmed to permit you to add a poll, and I made a mistake in doing this. Should I be horsewhipped for it?

Did you want a poll on that question as well?
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I think you can PM a mod, but I"m not sure.



Pinkie said:
What about voters? People you know? Does the average Republican lose better, IYO?

I agree about third party voters. I often wonder about people who vote for a man like Raplh Nader for President every election. What could possibly be the pay off?
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I was raised by very liberal democrats mostly. Honestly, they were horrible losers. I don't pretend that the sampling is a fair one, though! They absolutely sucked at losing, though. I'll never forget Bush's second election. My mother threw a party of her most liberal friends so they could watch him lose. Somehow she got the idea that I was voting for Bush (I skipped the presidential vote that time around) and early in the evening they were dancing and cheering as the democrats voted.

As the night wore on, my mother started getting madder and madder and started sniping at me and even kicked people out. It turned into a bunch of folks sitting around complaining how the whole world was about to end. It wasn't a pretty sight.

I honestly don't think it's a party issue, however. Some folks are bad losers, some are good ones.
 
Keridan said:
I think you can PM a mod, but I"m not sure.





I was raised by very liberal democrats mostly. Honestly, they were horrible losers. I don't pretend that the sampling is a fair one, though! They absolutely sucked at losing, though. I'll never forget Bush's second election. My mother threw a party of her most liberal friends so they could watch him lose. Somehow she got the idea that I was voting for Bush (I skipped the presidential vote that time around) and early in the evening they were dancing and cheering as the democrats voted.

As the night wore on, my mother started getting madder and madder and started sniping at me and even kicked people out. It turned into a bunch of folks sitting around complaining how the whole world was about to end. It wasn't a pretty sight.

I honestly don't think it's a party issue, however. Some folks are bad losers, some are good ones.
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Your Mommy is unusual in that she remained far left her entire life. I began there, but a little life experience goes a long way. By the time my kid was born, I was a Republican.

In brief, I think this country is at its best when the most people possible are either in the middle class or have the opportunity to rise to it during their young adulthood. I think Republicans do a better job (or at least usually aspire to) of regulating business without killing it. I think very few freedoms matter much if their is no economic justice or freedom.

I'm still far left as your Mommy is on social issues, especially if by adopting them we'd need no more government. But on many others, I'd be considered by most people to be a conservative -- or a fascist.
 
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Pinkie said:
Your Mommy is unusual in that she remained far left her entire life. I began there, but a little life experience goes a long way. By the time my kid was born, I was a Republican.

In brief, I think this country is at its best when the most people possible are either in the middle class or have the opportunity to rise to it during their young adulthood. I think Republicans do a better job (or at least usually aspire to) of regulating business without killing it. I think very few freedoms matter much if their is no economic justice or freedom.

I'm still far left as your Mommy is on social issues, especially if by adopting them we'd need no more government. But on many others, I'd be considered by most people to be a conservative -- or a fascist.
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My mother was stuck in academia as a professor most of her adult life. Not much hope of her changing those views.

And I'm not sure I understood your phrasing. Do you mean that you like or dislike more government?

I fall to the final conclusion on several left social issues, but usually from a different path. SSM to me is not the business of our government, for example. They need to get the hell out of it. Rather, I support equal rights approaches because it's preservation of a right, but they really really should not be trying to prevent equal rights.
 
Pinkie said:
Your Mommy is unusual in that she remained far left her entire life. I began there, but a little life experience goes a long way. By the time my kid was born, I was a Republican.

In brief, I think this country is at its best when the most people possible are either in the middle class or have the opportunity to rise to it during their young adulthood. I think Republicans do a better job (or at least usually aspire to) of regulating business without killing it. I think very few freedoms matter much if their is no economic justice or freedom.

I'm still far left as your Mommy is on social issues, especially if by adopting them we'd need no more government. But on many others, I'd be considered by most people to be a conservative -- or a fascist.
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There is nothing unusual about Keridan's Mommy. Having a little life experience make you wishy-washy is probably better kept to yourself.
 
Third parties are definitely best at losing. Practice makes perfect.
 
Keridan said:
My mother was stuck in academia as a professor most of her adult life. Not much hope of her changing those views.

And I'm not sure I understood your phrasing. Do you mean that you like or dislike more government?

I fall to the final conclusion on several left social issues, but usually from a different path. SSM to me is not the business of our government, for example. They need to get the hell out of it. Rather, I support equal rights approaches because it's preservation of a right, but they really really should not be trying to prevent equal rights.
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I'd like more cops and fewer bedroom police, in brief.
 
Mickey Shane said:
There is nothing unusual about Keridan's Mommy. Having a little life experience make you wishy-washy is probably better kept to yourself.
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There IS something unusual about remaining of the same political POV your whole life, Mickey. Since when does opening your mind to new facts and new POVs make anyone "wishy-washy"?

My parents were pinkos, but it was the McCarthy Era. It wasn't hard to see the difference between right and wrong. There are few such issues in life; most problems are hardly that clear-cut.

 
LOL. You do, you even lost the poll. ;-)
 
Risky Thicket said:
To tell you the truth, I've never done a poll. Well, not on DP. I did do a Pole from New Jersey once.
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Are you certain that's not Pol? I am inclined to think that doing a Pole in New Jersey indicates female exotic dancers.;)
 
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