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Thread: Is American Democracy For Sale?

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Who's the seller?
    Professional Politicians. It is their specialty. Why do you think there are so many lawyers in Congress?

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Too easy. What about "we, the people"?

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    A demoractic republic, as we have always had under the U.S. constitution.
    Very strange answer given your assertion that we do not live in a democracy.
    “The people do no want virtue; but they are the dupes of pretended patriots” : Elbridge Gerry of Mass; Constitutional Convention 1787

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Its not for sale, but its being bought...by superpacs and the super rich...

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Its not for sale, but its being bought...by superpacs and the super rich...
    I keep hearing this but I never see any proof anything has changed since citizens united worthy of note.

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So basically if you are rich you can't leave your children your money, get them through college, or anything else because you are rich.

    And you people wonder why people call you assholes.

    Did you ever consider its not suggested because its completely ****ed up? That the government already has trouble with support from inheritance as it already stands because its basically just a tax on death and success?

    Edit: Oh and 80% of the rich are first generation so there is no point in any of this to begin with.
    It's like giving the NBA champions the #1 draft pick and so on down the line to where the worst team gets the last pick. Sperm Bingo interferes with the competition of the next generation until eventually the Nobility with No Ability controls everything, which then crumbles and collapses. Death Wealth leads to the rule of the dead if their ghosts are allowed to determine who gets ahead in the next generation. The next phase anoints their spoiled children plus workoholic zombies who cripple their personal lives and personalities following the present rules on how to get ahead. Those self-destructive rules have been imposed by the previous aristocracy in order to get greedy wannabes to worship the born-rich and continue the process by setting up their own children for the next generation's class-biased competition. As for the 80%, besides ignoring the character of such class-climbers, these data are misleading if they don't show how high of a percentile the fathers of these self-made millionaires already were. For example, Ted Turner's father owned two small businesses, which gave Ted a head start, but wouldn't be counted in the self-serving survey of wannabes who got what they wanted. John Edwards is the exception these data mislead us into making it the rule, but who would want to be a slimeball like him and share success with children from that source?
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    And how would you institute such a law? Through democracy, or some other means?
    Change the attitudes of the common people who accept this creeping aristocracy. Make them suspicious of everything offered to them by those on top. For example, people ought to have the attitude that college is only for rich kids living off an allowance. Instead, they think it is for smart kids, so they hate nerds, who will do anything to escape that hatred and lie to themselves about whom college is really set up for.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You're defining the difference between direct democray and the representative democracy that we in the US live under.

    Very good point.
    A brownie point establishing the few who benefit from a republic, which is really a disguised oligarchy.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krasche View Post
    Yeah. I understand that. My point is still regardless of who's to blame, our government is not very efficient. And that is the main cause of our problem in this country in inefficient government with mostly greedy people in charge. It's the main reason I identify as a libertarian. I don't want government managing my life because it can't even seem to manage itself.
    Why don't you ever suspect that government is incompetent because those who rule it purposely make it so in order to discredit government and leave us at the mercy of the private sector? Inefficient Liberals are agents of the Right Wing they were born into; that's why they're called "Limousine Liberals." They don't have minds of their own, but are subconsciously motivated to act contrary to their self-righteous opinions of themselves. In believing that Liberals are sincere, the have-nots have been had by the haves. But the pathetic sheep deny it because they need Good Shepherds to pretend to protect them from the imaginary intentions of the Liberals, who are the Right Wing Good Shepherds' classmates. There is no intrinsic reason why government has to be inefficient, so this is all a puppet show to distract the peasants.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    A brownie point establishing the few who benefit from a republic, which is really a disguised oligarchy.
    These days; that's for sure. The people of this country refuse to exercise their strengths.
    Last edited by jet57; 06-01-12 at 09:41 PM.
    “The people do no want virtue; but they are the dupes of pretended patriots” : Elbridge Gerry of Mass; Constitutional Convention 1787

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