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Thread: Is American Democracy For Sale?

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krasche View Post
    Of course it does. However, just because i dont like it doesn't mean it isn't the truth.
    Right; okay, that's what I thought.

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I agree. The difference however, and why Obama will win this year, is that he's not a Republican.

    BTW can you show me where Obam has gone ona borrowing spree; I think I missed that.
    really?.. you have missed the trillion dollar deficits we've been having for a few years now?

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I agree. The difference however, and why Obama will win this year, is that he's not a Republican.

    BTW can you show me where Obam has gone ona borrowing spree; I think I missed that.
    The average federal spending under Bush was 20% of GDP and is now 24% of GDP under Obama (yep, that's a 20% increase) while the Bush/Obama federal taxation rates are still 17% of GDP which now yields a federal "budget" deficit of 40%. The "proof" of this speaks for itself with the over 5 trillion dollar increase in the national debt under Obama.
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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Rich people? Its not like every"rich person" owns the media. Its corporate owned and corporate bought. EX: Rupert Murdoch scandal, every other news station was all over this scandal but one news station was very very silent for some reason, what was that station?? FOX.
    Sorry I dont watch FOX so I had no idea that they were silent. So I thought I should check and see if you were correct.


    Turns out that an Advanced google search of foxnews returns ten plus pages of results when typing in Rupert Mudoch

    Here is a story in May this year. Murdoch scandal follows classic media baron script | Fox News

    Isnt it kind of silly for you to make claims when we can all just google it?

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The average federal spending under Bush was 20% of GDP and is now 24% of GDP under Obama (yep, that's a 20% increase) while the Bush/Obama federal taxation rates are still 17% of GDP which now yields a federal "budget" deficit of 40%. The "proof" of this speaks for itself with the over 5 trillion dollar increase in the national debt under Obama.
    But where is Oabama borrowing money from? I agree that he's spending money hand over fist, but I just don't recall reading that he's been borrowing money. Now, if you wish to equate borrowing with, say govrnment bailouts . . . then, yeah okay. But he's not borrowing rom outside of our borders that I know of: he's paying on those debts . . . The 5 trillion dollar debt you speak of is the direct result of the crash.
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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    The 5 trillion dollar debt you speak of is the direct result of the crash.
    That and the lack of a budget being passed
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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Does it ever hurt the....what 4 or 5 people who own all the media? Look at that Murdoch thing in the US. You'd think that everyone but Fox would have a field day and never let it go. HA! Forgotten ASAP.
    Yet here we are talking about it?

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krasche View Post
    That and the lack of a budget being passed
    You mean; this mess with an obstructionist GOP angenda? That lack?
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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Exactly. Those in DC get voting instructions along with campaign cash. Should there votes so enrage their state/district that they get the boot in the next election, then the powers that control them offer them a back-up "after office" job that keeps them "in the game", just in a different (perhaps lobbying) position. Example: Newt Gingrich.
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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You mean; this mess with an obstructionist GOP angenda? That lack?
    and the ones he shot down personally. Yes.
    "Sometimes we must look beyond what we want to do what's best."

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