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Thread: Is American Democracy For Sale?

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    These days; that's for sure. The people of this country refuse to exercise their strengths.
    That's the way we are brought up: accept the choices the oligarchy offers us; don't organize on our own. The neighborhood I was brought up in would have been minimum wage if it hadn't been for unions, yet no one encouraged his son to do anything political.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    That's the way we are brought up: accept the choices the oligarchy offers us; don't organize on our own. ...
    What we've noticed is cultural difference between West Michigan and most of Arizona. Or, between Mesa Arizona and most of the rest of Phoenix area. A term used by themselves is The Good People of East Mesa. The Good People of East Mesa are a classical oligarchy. And another oligarchy are the Dutch in West Michigan. The Dutch of West Michigan and nothing like the European Dutch are now; rather, the are stuck it the time of their emigration except more stringent and separated. So, here we are. To bad your essentially correct.

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We are not a democracy.
    Actually we are. A REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY. If we are not a "democracy" then who do we elect for our representatives to the house, and senate every few years?
    We are not a direct democracy, we are a representative democracy.
    You can be a republic and a democracy at the same time. You do realize this correct?


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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Actually we are. A REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY. If we are not a "democracy" then who do we elect for our representatives to the house, and senate every few years?
    We are not a direct democracy, we are a representative democracy.
    You can be a republic and a democracy at the same time.
    I know that this is a response to 'American'; but, I want to point out that operating under what you are pointing out is another functional layer of other organizations, the DRC of W. Michigan or The Good people of East Mesa for example. With large numbers of small groups we can stay a democracy, but with a small number of large non-democratic groups the overarching democracy is more tenuous. Our history has proven this.
    Last edited by OhIsee.Then; 06-02-12 at 08:04 PM.

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    I know that this is a response to 'American'; but, I want to point out that operating under what you are pointing out is another functional layer of other organizations, the DRC of W. Michigan or The Good people of East Mesa for example. With large numbers of small groups we can stay a democracy, but with a small number of large non-democratic groups the overarching democracy is more tenuous. Our history has proven this.
    Well that is why we are not a pure democracy. We are a representative democracy. We democratically elect representatives to do governmental work for us.


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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well that is why we are not a pure democracy. We are a representative democracy. We democratically elect representatives to do governmental work for us.
    We are also allowed to elect representatives to do other than governmental work, e.g. rules on marriage or where a house of worship can be built. The Constitution can even be changed or interpreted differently. Groups are working on having things like that happen. The groups don't elect their leaders The followers in a group have given up on using their individual judgement.

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    We are also allowed to elect representatives to do other than governmental work, e.g. rules on marriage or where a house of worship can be built. The Constitution can even be changed or interpreted differently. Groups are working on having things like that happen. The groups don't elect their leaders The followers in a group have given up on using their individual judgement.
    Uhhh thanks for agreeing with e i guess??


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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Actually we are. A REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY. If we are not a "democracy" then who do we elect for our representatives to the house, and senate every few years?
    We are not a direct democracy, we are a representative democracy.
    You can be a republic and a democracy at the same time. You do realize this correct?
    First of all, we are under no obligation to support a system set up by 18th Century wannabe aristocrats. A republic is just another name for an oligarchy. If we are forced to choose between two factions of an unrepresentative elite, that is not a genuine choice. A democracy is absolute rule by the majority. Those who call that "mob rule" only want Snob Rule. Which wing of the united elitist tyranny wins doesn't really matter to them as long as they put the majority in its place. Their losing wing pretends to whine in order to make the disempowered majority identify with that faction.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Is American Democracy For Sale?

    You don't have a 2 party system of government anymore, they're all Republicans! These Democrats abandoned the teacher unions, gave the Rich everything and kept all the Bush warmongering going.

    It is not 1992. So all this brainwashing in the media about abortion and Newt is the boogyman so we all have to line up like good little voters and vote Democrat to defeat the "evil" religious zealots is a smokescreen at best.

    You have to admit, that the Corp. Media and Talk Radio are always avoiding the war issues by substituting them with these bogus religion topics. The real issue the media should discuss is the wars themselves are bad policy.

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