View Poll Results: What do you think we should do about the Obesity Epidemic?

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  • We do nothing. People have the right to live unhealthily.

    48 66.67%
  • Use sin taxes.

    4 5.56%
  • Use regulations.

    1 1.39%
  • Combinations of methods to fight the Obesity Epidemic.

    17 23.61%
  • I don't know.

    2 2.78%
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Thread: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    Yup.

    Yup.

    That is all.
    Ok so if people have the right to eat AND people have the right to choose so long as they don't infringe on other peoples rights then why are people trying to restrict people in what they eat?
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    Or minding your own fvcking business.
    Offering help is in no way interfereing with peoples lives. So why not offer it?
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Offering help is in no way interfereing with peoples lives. So why not offer it?
    There's nothing wrong with offering help.

    But that doesn't mean one can boss other people around.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    There's nothing wrong with offering help.

    But that doesn't mean one can boss other people around.
    I agree with this.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    Freedom is the exercise of ones rights. "Rights" that come with user fees or taxes are not rights but privileges.

    Without the ability to exercise ones rights one is not free and doesn't have freedom. If one doesn't have the right to eat what one wants without taxes or user fees than that is not a right.

    I was responding to a statement made by Wake:



    As you can see he was making a statement he used the word freedom and implied it had to be paid for in taxes (money).

    The only thing that we need to pay for freedom is due diligennce.


    In responce to your question WHO says this i simply point to the 10th admendment of the US Constitution. The federal government has no role in this and as far as I am concered the state goverments would have no role either since they have intrests for this either.
    Missed that by Wake, but I don't believe the Constitution is at play here. When what you do ultimately leads to costs picked up by others, a user few is appropriate. In this regard, cost, it is govenment's interests, both state and federal.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You say that you lack empathy for those that choose to destroy their lives. Ok. What about those that don't choose to destroy their lives?
    Give an example, and I'll tell you what I think.

    And you may have a responsibility as an American to make your opinion known and oppose or support a political issue. But you don't have a responsibility or a right to tell people what they can put in their own mouths.
    Show me where I did. They can eat whatever the hell they want, just don't expect me to support government footing the bill for bailing them out. If they don't want to be fat anymore, they know what to do.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Missed that by Wake, but I don't believe the Constitution is at play here. When what you do ultimately leads to costs picked up by others, a user few is appropriate. In this regard, cost, it is govenment's interests, both state and federal.
    Really...Lets put this shoe on the other foot. How about we charge people that are active and out doing things an extra tax for mountain climbing? Bungee jumping? Swimming? Running? Riding a bike? All of those can cause the government to spend money in medical bills, emergency response bills, etc etc. After all...they're using peoples tax dollars for their stupidity!
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Missed that by Wake, but I don't believe the Constitution is at play here. When what you do ultimately leads to costs picked up by others, a user few is appropriate. In this regard, cost, it is govenment's interests, both state and federal.
    The Constitution is always at play when the government exercises any aspect of its power.

    The solution is to have those who engage in acts that have costs on others is for them to pay for that and not to have a situation in which the government charges some sort of blanket cost on every one who uses some product even when it is not abused by others.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Give an example, and I'll tell you what I think.
    If you actually knew how obesity works you would know this already. Believe it or not there are lots of obese people that DO exercise, that DO watch their calorie intake. That do eat healthy foods. But still cannot lose weight. The only way that they can lose weight is via surgery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Show me where I did. They can eat whatever the hell they want, just don't expect me to support government footing the bill for bailing them out. If they don't want to be fat anymore, they know what to do.
    Do you or do you not support restricting certain foods or increaseing taxes on certain foods to reduce obeseity? If you answer yes then you are attempting to tell a person what they can put in their own mouths.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    The Constitution is always at play when the government exercises any aspect of its power.

    The solution is to have those who engage in acts that have costs on others is for them to pay for that and not to have a situation in which the government charges some sort of blanket cost on every one who uses some product even when it is not abused by others.
    By not playing a role, I mean it is not being violated.

    It is not reasonable to expect that people who so abuse their bodies, be it eating or smoking or both or any other such abuse will be in a position to pay. So, we will have to turn them away, and as a country we have refused to do that. So, we can scream about them paying for it while we pick up the tap, or we can make a change of some sort. I would suggest we think practically here.

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