View Poll Results: What do you think we should do about the Obesity Epidemic?

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  • We do nothing. People have the right to live unhealthily.

    48 66.67%
  • Use sin taxes.

    4 5.56%
  • Use regulations.

    1 1.39%
  • Combinations of methods to fight the Obesity Epidemic.

    17 23.61%
  • I don't know.

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Thread: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post

    How so? Some don't have a will problem in losing weight, and some do.

    Addiction can be combatted through willpower. Iirc, a woman used a yoga of some sort 3 times per day to combat her cocaine addiction. That is extreme willpower, and that woman amazes me. Education and willpower are powerful factors, and if there are more on your minds please by all means list them.
    Yes, some people have exceptional will power. We have a tendancy to treat the exceptional as the norm. The morm is the area where MOST people are. The exceptional and poor are at the the extremes. Most diets fail. It's just a fact.

    As for your examples, yes, you can find the exceptions. No one argues that you can't.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    education and disclosure of calories next to menu items.

    if someone sees that the burger is over a thousand calories and still wants to buy it, then it's fine by me. but i'd like to have the calories right there while i'm making my choices. calories are on food at the grocery store; they should be on the menu, also.

    i'm against sin taxes and advertising bans.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Well for the most part charities and churches don't get my tax money. When I referred to communities, it wasn't about local governments as much as just the people come together. A local tech school in my area offered a 5K walk to lose pounds and it was a hit.

    The cost of freedom is risk. You have the freedom to make your own choices, but you will have to live with the consequences that come from it. If a person chooses to live a sedentary lifestyle while eating buckets of fried chicken, then they got to live with the risk of weighing 350+ pounds. If a person chooses to live an active lifestyle, then they got to live with the consequence of possible injury.

    I don't feel bad for people who make a choice to not change unhealthy lifestyles. That is their decision to live with, and in a free society it is fine. You try an dictate lifestyle then you start to become less free of a society.
    Perhaps more of those communities need to manifest, quickly, if that's make make any noticeable dent in this problem.

    Are you alright with paying more taxes in order to cover the costs of burgeoning healthcare costs that are directly related to obesity?

    Do you think taxes should increase to compensate for the cost of the freedom you're supporting?

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Well for the most part charities and churches don't get my tax money. When I referred to communities, it wasn't about local governments as much as just the people come together. A local tech school in my area offered a 5K walk to lose pounds and it was a hit.

    The cost of freedom is risk. You have the freedom to make your own choices, but you will have to live with the consequences that come from it. If a person chooses to live a sedentary lifestyle while eating buckets of fried chicken, then they got to live with the risk of weighing 350+ pounds. If a person chooses to live an active lifestyle, then they got to live with the consequence of possible injury.

    I don't feel bad for people who make a choice to not change unhealthy lifestyles. That is their decision to live with, and in a free society it is fine. You try an dictate lifestyle then you start to become less free of a society.
    Obesity is not necessarily the result of individual choices. This is one of those examples where I think libertarians attribute too much cause/effect to individual agency. The truth is, even in the absence of government coercion, we're not really as free as we prefer to think we are. If it's not the government, there are other forces that are constantly influencing your behavior whether you're aware of it or not, or whether you like it or not.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    education and disclosure of calories next to menu items.

    if someone sees that the burger is over a thousand calories and still wants to buy it, then it's fine by me. but i'd like to have the calories right there while i'm making my choices. calories are on food at the grocery store; they should be on the menu, also.

    i'm against sin taxes and advertising bans.
    I'm ok with sin taxes ONLY if they go to help treat those who suffer from that sin.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    education and disclosure of calories next to menu items.

    if someone sees that the burger is over a thousand calories and still wants to buy it, then it's fine by me. but i'd like to have the calories right there while i'm making my choices. calories are on food at the grocery store; they should be on the menu, also.

    i'm against sin taxes and advertising bans.
    If you support this freedom, will you support paying for the cost of this freedom through your taxes?

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    We seem to be breaking down, wallowing in our debilitation and lack of willpower. There is a group of people in America that on one hand opines that we Americans should be allowed to slowly kill ourselves through unhealthy food, and on the other hand complain about increasing taxes for the costs of affording the results of said unhealthy living. You should not be able to have it both ways; either support unhealthy living and pay taxes because of it, or don't support unhealthy freedom and don't pay taxes for it.
    This is why it should be OK to mock people. Fatties are fat and you can make comments about it. I don't know if it will solve the problem, but maybe it will shame them into a diet. I take the same line with stupid people. We shouldn't let them sit there wallowing in their own stupidity. Stupid people should be made aware that they are stupid so that they can take steps to correct it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    massive public outreach & campaigns.

    requiring 3-days of gym per week for all students, grade 1-12.

    requiring health insurance companies reward healthy behaviors & penalize poor ones (drinking, smoking, over-eating, poor diet)

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    This is why it should be OK to mock people. Fatties are fat and you can make comments about it. I don't know if it will solve the problem, but maybe it will shame them into a diet. I take the same line with stupid people. We shouldn't let them sit there wallowing in their own stupidity. Stupid people should be made aware that they are stupid so that they can take steps to correct it.
    It doesn't work. That's just a fact.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It doesn't work. That's just a fact.
    Yeah....I know. But at least the rest of us can draw some entertainment value from it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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