View Poll Results: What do you think we should do about the Obesity Epidemic?

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  • We do nothing. People have the right to live unhealthily.

    48 66.67%
  • Use sin taxes.

    4 5.56%
  • Use regulations.

    1 1.39%
  • Combinations of methods to fight the Obesity Epidemic.

    17 23.61%
  • I don't know.

    2 2.78%
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Thread: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I did not say that.

    I said that having people pay for more of their medicare would undoubtedly cause more people to suffer and die.

    A better solution would be to start attacking the problem itself through regulation/taxation/whatever, since education doesn't seem to be sinking in to these certain people.
    Because regulation/taxation solves everything. How do you regulate what people eat or how much exercise they get? You can't. Last I checked this is America, where people have the right to be fat and stupid, regardless of how much of a ****ty idea it is.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I did not say that.

    I said that having people pay for more of their medicare would undoubtedly cause more people to suffer and die.

    A better solution would be to start attacking the problem itself through regulation/taxation/whatever, since education doesn't seem to be sinking in to these certain people.


    Like most well-intentioned efforts to control people's private lives, this one is doomed to one or another version of fail.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    A better solution would be to start attacking the problem itself through regulation/taxation/whatever, since education doesn't seem to be sinking in to these certain people.
    So your solution is to butt into thier lives and and force them into submission? What gives you the right?
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
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    Eh, solving the "obesity problem" isn't really a matter of conscience or doing things for people's own good. It's about eliminating something that costs society.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Eh, solving the "obesity problem" isn't really a matter of conscience or doing things for people's own good. It's about eliminating something that costs society.


    Anything and everything you do, COULD end up costing someone else some money somewhere down the line. If we use that as the standard of what qualifies for government intervention, we might as well throw the Bill of Rights out right now and forget about freedom.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    They may very well not want to interfere in peoples lives. But that is exactly what they are doing. And where does it end? Where do we draw the line? One day its one thing, the next its another, the third its another still. It all adds up. Soon you won't be able to turn your back on your kid for 5 seconds for fear of breaking some friggen law. Whether the kid is asleep or not.
    No, you didn't understand what I said. Let me repeat:

    You argued that people are using obesity as an excuse to interfere in people's lives. I'm telling you that that's not true. I didn't say anything about people not wanting to interfere in people's lives. I said that they aren't just looking for excuses to do so.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Anything and everything you do, COULD end up costing someone else some money somewhere down the line.

    If we use that as the standard of what qualifies for government intervention, we might as well throw the Bill of Rights out right now and forget about freedom.
    Nobody's talking about "could," we're talking about "is".

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Nobody's talking about "could," we're talking about "is".

    Yeah, like seatbelt laws.


    Simple solution: if you have a wreck not wearing a seatbelt, the cost of your injuries are your own personal problem and no one else's.

    But no, we have to have seatbelt laws, seatbelt checkpoints where they ask you nosy questions, etc.

    Yeah, the government is gonna save us all.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Nobody's talking about "could," we're talking about "is".
    People cost others money simply by using their freedom of speech. Such as boycotts. That happens all the time. As such it IS happening.
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