View Poll Results: What do you think we should do about the Obesity Epidemic?

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  • We do nothing. People have the right to live unhealthily.

    48 66.67%
  • Use sin taxes.

    4 5.56%
  • Use regulations.

    1 1.39%
  • Combinations of methods to fight the Obesity Epidemic.

    17 23.61%
  • I don't know.

    2 2.78%
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Thread: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I don't think Chaddelamancha or most people who advocate some kind of government involvement do so just because they're looking for a way to interfere in people's lives. It's one thing to argue that such intervention is too much involvement, it's another to thing to accuse people of just looking for excuses to interfere in people's lives. The latter is nothing more than just a way to dismiss people's opinions based on an assumption of intent that you can't possibly know.
    They may very well not want to interfere in peoples lives. But that is exactly what they are doing. And where does it end? Where do we draw the line? One day its one thing, the next its another, the third its another still. It all adds up. Soon you won't be able to turn your back on your kid for 5 seconds for fear of breaking some friggen law. Whether the kid is asleep or not.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    They may very well not want to interfere in peoples lives. But that is exactly what they are doing. And where does it end? Where do we draw the line? One day its one thing, the next its another, the third its another still. It all adds up. Soon you won't be able to turn your back on your kid for 5 seconds for fear of breaking some friggen law. Whether the kid is asleep or not.
    Welcome to the huge gov't nanny state, give them your paycheck and they will "properly" care for you.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Sooo... what the hell happened to personal responsibility? Did that **** go out the window or what? Sure we could input heavy taxes and regulations to control what restaurants serve or what people eat, or we can remember we live in AMERICA were people have the right to live and do as they please. Frankly, I don't think what's in our food is even the problem. We're eating overall healthier than we did 20-30 years ago, yet obesity rates are HIGHER. Why? Think back to when you were a kid. How many kids did you see outside playing. Ok now think about how many you see today. Exactly. Nobody goes out and exercises anymore. There's less and less reason to go out and do things thanks to the mass increase in technology.

    Not only that, but in 1970 the average age of US citizens was roughly 28. Today it's about 35. I dunno about you, but I've noticed people gain weight with age. And of course the BMI doesn't account for muscle mass. I'm technically obese, yet I'm in the best shape I've ever been in, rocking abs and everything.

    I'm not saying it isn't an issue, but it is definitely overhyped.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Krasche View Post
    Sooo... what the hell happened to personal responsibility? Did that **** go out the window or what?
    Personal responsibility got eaten a while back.

    When about 2/3 of all American adults are obese then you know personal responsibility is going out the window.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Personal responsibility got eaten a while back.

    When about 2/3 of all American adults are obese then you know personal responsibility is going out the window.

    Holy cow, Wake, they've been moving the goalposts for "Obesity" back further and further for the past 40 years, to the point where you've about got to be skin and bones and tendons to weigh in "normal for your height". Bodybuilders and other muscular athletes are often technically "obese" by government standards because the gov doesn't take into account different body types and levels of muscularity and so on.

    I seriously doubt this "obesity crisis" is quite as bad as they make it sound.

    Don't like obesity? Put down the doughnut and go take a walk.

    Your neighbors' obesity is his problem. This sticking of gov't's nose into everyone's personal life won't end until they're telling you how often you can **** each day.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Holy cow, Wake, they've been moving the goalposts for "Obesity" back further and further for the past 40 years, to the point where you've about got to be skin and bones and tendons to weigh in "normal for your height". Bodybuilders and other muscular athletes are often technically "obese" by government standards because the gov doesn't take into account different body types and levels of muscularity and so on.

    I seriously doubt this "obesity crisis" is quite as bad as they make it sound.

    Don't like obesity? Put down the doughnut and go take a walk.

    Your neighbors' obesity is his problem.
    Any effective system should consider the existence of bodybuilders, muscular people, etc. The rough idea of a system in my mind would be a bit more lax than the one I've heard of in Europe.

    The article states that 2/3 of all American adults are obese. To deny that would be to say they're either lying or flat-out wrong. If they're wrong, logic dictates that it's shown exactly how it's wrong.

    It's not just an individual problem. The whole group of obese people, through their obesity, undoubtedly develop a myriad of problems. Those problems require care, treatment, medicine, procedures X rays, etc. That costs money. A lot of money.

    My neighbor's obesity becomes my problem when my taxes go up in paying for those costs. The notion of obesity is a problem to me when I see morally bankrupt corporations preying on our young, enticing them with cartoon ads for their ****** products.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Fine. Simple solution; let everyone pay for their own healthcare in a free market without government intervention or artificial rules disallowing inter-state competition for rates.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Fine. Simple solution; let everyone pay for their own healthcare in a free market without government intervention or artificial rules disallowing inter-state competition for rates.
    Then there'd be even more people suffering and dying from being unable to afford medical insurance. The same happened with me and my family.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Then there'd be even more people suffering and dying from being unable to afford medical insurance. The same happened with me and my family.

    Oh...

    so you want OTHERS to pay for YOUR medical care, but not for fat people's medical care....


    Gotcha.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Oh...

    so you want OTHERS to pay for YOUR medical care, but not for fat people's medical care....


    Gotcha.
    I did not say that.

    I said that having people pay for more of their medicare would undoubtedly cause more people to suffer and die.

    A better solution would be to start attacking the problem itself through regulation/taxation/whatever, since education doesn't seem to be sinking in to these certain people.

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