View Poll Results: What do you think we should do about the Obesity Epidemic?

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  • We do nothing. People have the right to live unhealthily.

    48 66.67%
  • Use sin taxes.

    4 5.56%
  • Use regulations.

    1 1.39%
  • Combinations of methods to fight the Obesity Epidemic.

    17 23.61%
  • I don't know.

    2 2.78%
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Thread: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    True, but we can lobby and read, which means we can either support or resist. Agian, I don't espouse faith. I suggest work and dilgence. I think those are different than faith.
    Having faith in others to do their work in diligence is faith. Unless this can be achieved by a single person, you are espousing faith.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And if we don't plan ahead, we have the mess we have right now.

    Intervention has to be paid for. And I wouldn't go too far down the child abuse path. Too much can too easily then be added to the list.
    How is it not abuse? It is damaging the child physically and emotionally. So we are just supposed to plan ahead for a rise in morbidly obese people? Heck, we are still trying to catch up on old people living longer!
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    How is it not abuse? It is damaging the child physically and emotionally. So we are just supposed to plan ahead for a rise in morbidly obese people? Heck, we are still trying to catch up on old people living longer!
    Living within an accepted societal construct is not abuse. More are lost than willfully doing wrong.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Having faith in others to do their work in diligence is faith. Unless this can be achieved by a single person, you are espousing faith.
    I believe I included us in this. We have to do our part.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    I thought about using this kind of analogy, but it just doesn't work. I drink alcohol, but I am not an addict. Yet I still pay the sin tax. Most obese people would fall under the umbrella of addiction when it comes to not just sweets, but food in general.
    I can be obese, eating EXACTLY the same as anyone else, all I need do is not exercise (or physcally work) as much as another. A construction worker or athlete is not a "food addict" yet they must consume more food (in general) than a desk worker just to maintain their weight and strength. Therefore a fit athlete will pay far more 'food tax' than an obese office worker, especially if the obese office worker is not too picky about what they eat (avoiding the higher taxed items).
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Living within an accepted societal construct is not abuse. More are lost than willfully doing wrong.
    At one point, spanking your child was an accepted societal construct, which is now considered abuse. But that is getting off topic.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I believe I included us in this. We have to do our part.
    We also have to have faith that others will do their part as well. If we could do that, we wouldn't even have an obesity epidemic to begin with, though.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Because your claim was universal. Only one exception is required to point out that a universal claim is inaccurate.



    Gotcha. I can agree with the problem being people eating too much crap. I'm of the belief that any government intervention will exacerbate instead of alleviate the problem. We're in a society that has forsaken the concept of personal responsibility.

    The problem is that people who blame their parents for their bad eating habits today are going to be the ones that their own children blame for their bad eating habits tomorrow. In order for the cycle of victimization to end, people have to own up to their own part in things and make the decision to eat healthier, not for their own sake, but for their children's sake. Blaming people for one's own failings doesn't get **** fixed. Owning up to your mistakes and making an effort to change things does.

    But I have absolutely no faith in our society to do this.

    I've working on a re-imagining of Juvenal's famous "bread and circuses" critique of Roman Society to relate it more to modern US society.

    Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man, the People have abdicated our responsibilities; for the People who once upon a time took care of themselves, their children, their homes, — everything, now blame their failings on imaginary boogie men and anxiously hope for just two things: Fast food and Reality TV.

    It's a work in progress, but I think it's really starting to get a handle on today's America.
    I dont think were disagreeing on this tuck...I think were both saying the same thing

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    How is it not abuse? It is damaging the child physically and emotionally. So we are just supposed to plan ahead for a rise in morbidly obese people? Heck, we are still trying to catch up on old people living longer!
    With this kind of attitude then what isn't child abuse? If I look at my kid wrong and he/she starts crying is that child abuse? Could it be considered as such by a group of namby pamby idiots bent on ruling others lives? If I stand my child in a corner is that child abuse? Could it be considered as such by a group of namby pamby idiots bent on ruling others lives? In answer to this last one, yes it can. Several years back a group tried to get "standing in the corner" put on the child abuse list for the CPS here in Idaho.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    With this kind of attitude then what isn't child abuse? If I look at my kid wrong and he/she starts crying is that child abuse? Could it be considered as such by a group of namby pamby idiots bent on ruling others lives? If I stand my child in a corner is that child abuse? Could it be considered as such by a group of namby pamby idiots bent on ruling others lives? In answer to this last one, yes it can. Several years back a group tried to get "standing in the corner" put on the child abuse list for the CPS here in Idaho.
    I agree. It is foolish to get the government involved when it isn't needed.
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