View Poll Results: What do you think we should do about the Obesity Epidemic?

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  • We do nothing. People have the right to live unhealthily.

    48 66.67%
  • Use sin taxes.

    4 5.56%
  • Use regulations.

    1 1.39%
  • Combinations of methods to fight the Obesity Epidemic.

    17 23.61%
  • I don't know.

    2 2.78%
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Thread: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    That's also a good consideration. I'd have no problem with a slightly more lenient form of a BMI tax structure.

    Does anyone know how successful the BMI structure is in Europe? Been searching it one Google and haven't found any official data.
    The BMI is a load of ****. At 175lbs I'll have a six pack but my BMI is just inside the "overweight" category. Body fat percentage would be a far better measure.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The better course of action would be to place the responsibility in the laps of those who cause their own problems. You can't force people to take care of themselves, but you can refuse to pay for their negligence.
    It's just frustrating imo how people support as hard as they can the negligence, and then turn around and walk away, refusing to take responsibility.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    There is no "obesity epidemic".
    Still wating on either an explanation or support or both.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The BMI is a load of ****. At 175lbs I'll have a six pack but my BMI is just inside the "overweight" category. Body fat percentage would be a far better measure.
    Interesting. If you were to implement this, how do you think you'd begin. Also, what do you think fair percentages would be?

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    In the vast majority of cases Obesity is a choice. You should have the freedom to eat what you want, but you should also be expected to pay for the higher costs of care associated with your lifestyle (higher insurance premiums and higher medical bills). It's about personal responsibility, if you want to be obese then carry your share of the financial burden it causes.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The better course of action would be to place the responsibility in the laps of those who cause their own problems. You can't force people to take care of themselves, but you can refuse to pay for their negligence.
    I agree completely. We are back to that darned personal responsibility thing again. That goes against the left, that want the huge nanny state to make life "fair" and to help those that will not help themsevles. Have a pet that you can not (or will not) feed and properly care for and the state will take the pet to a shelter, charge you with a crime and be done with it; have a child that you can not (or will not) feed and properly care for and the state will give you a check to help you care for yourself and the child. Yes they can!
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Still wating on either an explanation or support or both.
    Agreed. 2/3 of American adults being obese is an obesity epidemic.

    I wonder what people would say if we woke up and discovered that 90% of all American adults were obese.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    It's just frustrating imo how people support as hard as they can the negligence, and then turn around and walk away, refusing to take responsibility.
    That is the reasoning behind putting the responsibility of the shoulders of individuals, as opposed to putting it on society as a whole. I can't force someone to live a healthy life, but I can refuse to pay for their bad habits, and let them bear that burden of responsibility. It's just like when my son was being a 17 year-old ****head. I refused to indulge his stupidity, and let him learn from the life, the greatest of all teachers, that stupidity doesn't pay as a good lifestyle choice.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The better course of action would be to place the responsibility in the laps of those who cause their own problems. You can't force people to take care of themselves, but you can refuse to pay for their negligence.
    Actually you cant refuse to pay for their negligence....... when they show up in the ER with health problems due to a bad diet, then what do you do.. say sorry but no treatment because you cant afford it and you are negligent since you ate too many twinkies?

    The point on taxing "bad" foods is to push people to more healthy alternatives but not deny them the ability to buy and use the bad foods if they can afford it. Now it is not the foods themselves that should be taxed, but the bad parts of the foods and of course the amounts of the bad parts. You can actually make a fried chicken that is not 4000 calories, and you can make a healthy evening meal that is not 4000 calories. I mean one of the more popular foods at fairs in the US... is deep fried butter... come on....

    They are actually trying this in Denmark now, and it has its success but also its annoying realities. For example the tax hit healthy non sugar jam because of one of the preservatives in the jam was on the tax list. It also hit some our national foods, which was not too popular hehe.
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