View Poll Results: What do you think we should do about the Obesity Epidemic?

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  • We do nothing. People have the right to live unhealthily.

    48 66.67%
  • Use sin taxes.

    4 5.56%
  • Use regulations.

    1 1.39%
  • Combinations of methods to fight the Obesity Epidemic.

    17 23.61%
  • I don't know.

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Thread: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Wake, if people want to eat fried chicken, they don't need to buy it already fried. They can buy oil and chicken at the grocery store, and fry their own at home. What would you support then? Banning oil in the grocery store?
    Good point.

    Maybe we should start by targetting the already pre-made bad foods, instead of select ingredients. There are going to be ingredients like oil and flour that can be used to make either good or bad foods. Chicken itself can be fried, but it can also be baked or grilled, etc. Targetting pre-made foods would be more convenient than punishing everyone who uses said select ingredients.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Maybe we shouldn't target anything and allow people to live their lives free to make their own decision. Maybe we should allow people the freedom to eat what they want. Maybe instead of trying to regulate personal choice we should do the exact opposite and allow it.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Good point.

    Maybe we should start by targetting the already pre-made bad foods, instead of select ingredients. There are going to be ingredients like oil and flour that can be used to make either good or bad foods. Chicken itself can be fried, but it can also be baked or grilled, etc. Targetting pre-made foods would be more convenient than punishing everyone who uses said select ingredients.
    No, we shouldn't be targeting any foods. Make people pay for their own lifestyle choices by paying for the required medical costs associated with bad choices.

    Banning and regulating foods is government coercion, and I never favor government coercion regarding actions which don't direictly harm others.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Good point.

    Maybe we should start by targetting the already pre-made bad foods, instead of select ingredients. There are going to be ingredients like oil and flour that can be used to make either good or bad foods. Chicken itself can be fried, but it can also be baked or grilled, etc. Targetting pre-made foods would be more convenient than punishing everyone who uses said select ingredients.
    Why not just tax people based on body fat percentage?
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why not just tax people based on body fat percentage?
    Hmmm, I think you may have just solved our fiscal debt problem.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Hmmm, I think you may have just solved our fiscal debt problem.
    I know I'd be hitting the treadmill a bit more.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why not just tax people based on body fat percentage?
    Because that places the left in a very bad place. They then have to admit that the fat people, that consumed more calories than they burned, not some evil coroporation or gov't policy, made themselves fat. They can't handle that personal resonsibility angle, it must be some evil "other" that bears the burden of these costs.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Maybe we shouldn't target anything and allow people to live their lives free to make their own decision. Maybe we should allow people the freedom to eat what they want. Maybe instead of trying to regulate personal choice we should do the exact opposite and allow it.
    Maybe we should consider that over two thirds of American adults are obese, and that this puts a very heavy burden on society. You have the freedom to eat food, but you shouldn't have the freedom to cripple out nation. Besides, taxation isn't taking away your right to eat a 2,000 calorie sandwich. Take into consideration that we also tax cigarettes and iirc alcohol as well.


    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    No, we shouldn't be targeting any foods. Make people pay for their own lifestyle choices by paying for the required medical costs associated with bad choices.

    Banning and regulating foods is government coercion, and I never favor government coercion regarding actions which don't direictly harm others.
    Should we not target alcohol and cigarettes as well? I'd say make people responsible for their own medical costs, and tax/regulate/do what must be done to curb this immense problem. I don't want to have to wake up to there being 80% of all adults being obese. I'm under no obligation to do nothing while America eventually collapses under the weight of this problem. Sometimes enough is enough and if people are too stupid to take care of themselves then actions must be taken.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why not just tax people based on body fat percentage?
    That's also a good consideration. I'd have no problem with a slightly more lenient form of a BMI tax structure.

    Does anyone know how successful the BMI structure is in Europe? Been searching it one Google and haven't found any official data.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Because that places the left in a very bad place. They then have to admit that the fat people, that consumed more calories than they burned, not some evil coroporation of gov't policy, made themselves fat. They can't handle that personal resonsibility angle, it must be some evil "other" that bears the burden of these costs.
    I don't necessarily want to demonize fat people, either. Some of my favorite people in the world are fat as ****. If the actual goal is to provide a weight loss incentive, then taxing excess weight is the most efficient means of doing so.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Should we not target alcohol and cigarettes as well? I'd say make people responsible for their own medical costs, and tax/regulate/do what must be done to curb this immense problem. I don't want to have to wake up to there being 80% of all adults being obese. I'm under no obligation to do nothing while America eventually collapses under the weight of this problem. Sometimes enough is enough and if people are too stupid to take care of themselves then actions must be taken.
    The better course of action would be to place the responsibility in the laps of those who cause their own problems. You can't force people to take care of themselves, but you can refuse to pay for their negligence.
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