View Poll Results: What do you think we should do about the Obesity Epidemic?

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  • We do nothing. People have the right to live unhealthily.

    48 66.67%
  • Use sin taxes.

    4 5.56%
  • Use regulations.

    1 1.39%
  • Combinations of methods to fight the Obesity Epidemic.

    17 23.61%
  • I don't know.

    2 2.78%
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Thread: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    What we have to understand and accept..is that there are many americans that DONT KNOW HOW TO EAT healthy...theyve been eating chit since they were able to open their mouth....if you had parents that stuck sugary drinks in your face since you can remember...or parents that had HORRIBLE eating habits since you were born and thats what you ate all your life...your not going to change I dont think.
    My parents have horrible eating habits. My mom eats fast food for every meal.

    Last night for dinner I had grilled pork tenderloin and a salad. I didn't need the government to step in to teach me how to eat healthier than my parents.

    Id bet a dozen donuts that if you handed half of america...an artichoke, a turnip a fresh Beet and said cook these for me...they would looked confused. If you never aquired a tasted for fresh vegetables and fruits and your parents gave you chit your entire life...you are not going to start eating veggies and fruit...
    Except I know for a fact that isn't true since I myself have begun developing a taste for fresh vegetables and fruit. Granted, you picked three veggies I dislike, but give me some fresh spinach, arugula, broccoli, carrots, etc. and pretty much any fruit and I'm a happy guy.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    My parents have horrible eating habits. My mom eats fast food for every meal.

    Last night for dinner I had grilled pork tenderloin and a salad. I didn't need the government to step in to teach me how to eat healthier than my parents.





    Except I know for a fact that isn't true since I myself have begun developing a taste for fresh vegetables and fruit. Granted, you picked three veggies I dislike, but give me some fresh spinach, arugula, broccoli, carrots, etc. and pretty much any fruit and I'm a happy guy.


    How can you say its not true tucker than just use yourself as the example...your just one person..and 1 doesnt represent the many.
    The proof of that is we really do have an obesity epidemic..and too many people eat trash food like McDs...but I dont advocate govt intervention...actually I was more stating that govt intervention wont help..

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    How can you say its not true tucker than just use yourself as the example...your just one person..and 1 doesnt represent the many.
    Because your claim was universal. Only one exception is required to point out that a universal claim is inaccurate.

    The proof of that is we really do have an obesity epidemic..and too many people eat trash food like McDs...but I dont advocate govt intervention...actually I was more stating that govt intervention wont help..
    Gotcha. I can agree with the problem being people eating too much crap. I'm of the belief that any government intervention will exacerbate instead of alleviate the problem. We're in a society that has forsaken the concept of personal responsibility.

    The problem is that people who blame their parents for their bad eating habits today are going to be the ones that their own children blame for their bad eating habits tomorrow. In order for the cycle of victimization to end, people have to own up to their own part in things and make the decision to eat healthier, not for their own sake, but for their children's sake. Blaming people for one's own failings doesn't get **** fixed. Owning up to your mistakes and making an effort to change things does.

    But I have absolutely no faith in our society to do this.

    I've working on a re-imagining of Juvenal's famous "bread and circuses" critique of Roman Society to relate it more to modern US society.

    Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man, the People have abdicated our responsibilities; for the People who once upon a time took care of themselves, their children, their homes, — everything, now blame their failings on imaginary boogie men and anxiously hope for just two things: Fast food and Reality TV.

    It's a work in progress, but I think it's really starting to get a handle on today's America.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    I don't know.
    The "freedom" to be unhealthy is important, I think.
    Also these unhealthy will use up far less social security..ouch....
    Being healthy must be a choice, not a dictate.....The root cause of this problem is that we are not mentally healthy.
    "Fast food" and Reality TV ??
    We cannot afford "fast food" and have no interest in this Reality stuff, whatever it is....
    Its a matter of taste...these have no taste...and only negative outcomes..
    Thus, I think the so-called sin tax may be the answer - part of it -
    .The long term answer ,IMO, is education, and being mentally healthy.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    1. Better food education in schools. Better school meals. This fight starts in the home and in schools.

    2. High taxes on fatty foods. Like it or not, the food industry makes a lot of fatty unhealthy cheap foods and it is costing society in all countries billions in health issues.

    People are free to do whatever they want with their bodies, but to do the wrong thing will cost you on the wallet.
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Can we agree that instead of taxing sugar and salt, we should instead target bad food like fried chicken and doughnuts? If we go after the foods we know are incredibly unhealthy instead of the commonly used substances like sugar and salt I'd imagine that'd be a bit more fair for all.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Can we agree that instead of taxing sugar and salt, we should instead target bad food like fried chicken and doughnuts? If we go after the foods we know are incredibly unhealthy instead of the commonly used substances like sugar and salt I'd imagine that'd be a bit more fair for all.
    How are you going to tax someone for frying chicken or dough?
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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    How are you going to tax someone for frying chicken or dough?
    I don't recall saying that. Any food item that is knowingly unhealthy like fried foods and doughnuts, like those you'd see at Wal-Mart, should be taxed.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Can we agree that instead of taxing sugar and salt, we should instead target bad food like fried chicken and doughnuts? If we go after the foods we know are incredibly unhealthy instead of the commonly used substances like sugar and salt I'd imagine that'd be a bit more fair for all.
    Honestly, I'd rather tax people in order to fund the legitimate operations of the federal government.

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    Re: The Need for Regulation: Fighting the Obesity Epidemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I don't recall saying that. Any food item that is knowingly unhealthy like fried foods and doughnuts, like those you'd see at Wal-Mart, should be taxed.
    Wake, if people want to eat fried chicken, they don't need to buy it already fried. They can buy oil and chicken at the grocery store, and fry their own at home. What would you support then? Banning oil in the grocery store?
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