View Poll Results: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

Voters
64. You may not vote on this poll
  • Obama

    35 54.69%
  • Romney

    29 45.31%
Page 69 of 82 FirstFirst ... 1959676869707179 ... LastLast
Results 681 to 690 of 817

Thread: For Veterans and Military personnel only.[W:651]

  1. #681
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I was there, Boo. You are trying to correct me about things that I took part in, because you are stuck defending a foolish position you struck declaring something a failure because that would have been ideologically beneficial.
    You've never understood this, but being there doesn't make you right. There are other people who were there who disagree with you, but you make excuses for that and simply want your OPINION accepted as fact. it doesn't work that way.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

  2. #682
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    would be interesting to see how the results changed if you removed the votes from the "old guys" who were drafted instead of volunteering
    It would likely be different. But not just because of the volunteer thing, but because age sometimes tempers the enthusiasum of youth. Some of those who see it one way today will change their view when they gain more world experience and can look at things outside the small world they currently inhabit.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

  3. #683
    Advisor Rising Sun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    United States of America
    Last Seen
    12-10-14 @ 10:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    331

    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It would likely be different. But not just because of the volunteer thing, but because age sometimes tempers the enthusiasum of youth. Some of those who see it one way today will change their view when they gain more world experience and can look at things outside the small world they currently inhabit.
    I can vouch for that. My first ten years in the service I was known as being "right of Attila the Hun". Since then I've mellowed toward the center. It's a big world and, as our own nation has shown, it's split down the middle between left and right. The problem with our present government is primarily due to Congressional gridlock based upon extreme partisan politics. It's why I and many others have moved to being an independent rather than stick with the extreme nature of the present political parties.

    Survey: Troops shift political parties - Navy News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Navy Times
    An exclusive survey of some 1,800 active-duty troops shows the percentage of self-identified Republicans has decreased by one-third since 2004, from 60 percent to 41 percent, while the percentage of self-identified independents has nearly doubled to 32 percent during the same period.

    These career-oriented officers and mid-grade and senior enlisted members are still far more conservative than liberal, but they are less likely today to identify with the GOP, the survey shows.

  4. #684
    Professor

    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    MI and AZ
    Last Seen
    03-15-15 @ 01:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    1,581

    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    would be interesting to see how the results changed if you removed the votes from the "old guys" who were drafted instead of volunteering
    I was going to ASU and dropped calculus (243 students in the lecture and a ESL grad student heading up the study group of over 3 students) so I got my notice from the draft board 3 days later. I went to the USAF and took some tests and signed some papers. I was sworn in, but it wasn't clear to what service. According to paperwork I was in both for a short time. I did get into the USAF. So was I drafted or did I volunteer?

  5. #685
    Farts in Elevators
    OscarB63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Alabama
    Last Seen
    09-06-14 @ 07:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    26,526

    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    I was going to ASU and dropped calculus (243 students in the lecture and a ESL grad student heading up the study group of over 3 students) so I got my notice from the draft board 3 days later. I went to the USAF and took some tests and signed some papers. I was sworn in, but it wasn't clear to what service. According to paperwork I was in both for a short time. I did get into the USAF. So was I drafted or did I volunteer?
    If you only joined one service to prevent being drafted into another, I would not consider you a volunteer. Since, had you not gotten a draft notice, you would not have joined the USAF.
    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

  6. #686
    Haters gon' hate
    MarineTpartier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Last Seen
    01-04-16 @ 04:58 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    5,586
    Blog Entries
    8

    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You've never understood this, but being there doesn't make you right. There are other people who were there who disagree with you, but you make excuses for that and simply want your OPINION accepted as fact. it doesn't work that way.
    I'm not one of those. I was there too. I agree with CP.
    “Mr. Speaker, I once again find myself compelled to vote against the annual budget resolution for a very simple reason: it makes government bigger.” ― Ron Paul
    Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty. – Thomas Jefferson

  7. #687
    Haters gon' hate
    MarineTpartier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Last Seen
    01-04-16 @ 04:58 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    5,586
    Blog Entries
    8

    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.[W:651]

    I'm still waiting on the anti-Scott Walker-esque protests for President Obama attempting to force us to pay more into our medical care..........Anybody?.............I mean, last time I checked some union worker doesn't get Traumatic Brain Injury on the regular. Or lose limbs due to IED blasts. Just sayin.
    “Mr. Speaker, I once again find myself compelled to vote against the annual budget resolution for a very simple reason: it makes government bigger.” ― Ron Paul
    Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty. – Thomas Jefferson

  8. #688
    Farts in Elevators
    OscarB63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Alabama
    Last Seen
    09-06-14 @ 07:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    26,526

    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.[W:651]

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I'm still waiting on the anti-Scott Walker-esque protests for President Obama attempting to force us to pay more into our medical care..........Anybody?.............I mean, last time I checked some union worker doesn't get Traumatic Brain Injury on the regular. Or lose limbs due to IED blasts. Just sayin.
    why can't we get the same deal as congress. one term and retirement for life. I've done a tour in desert storm and a couple in OIF and since I am reserve component I have to wait until I am 60 until I can draw retirement
    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

  9. #689
    Sage
    cpwill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    USofA
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    57,115

    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It would likely be different. But not just because of the volunteer thing, but because age sometimes tempers the enthusiasum of youth. Some of those who see it one way today will change their view when they gain more world experience and can look at things outside the small world they currently inhabit.
    That's true - people do tend to become more conservative as they age.

  10. #690
    Sage
    cpwill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    USofA
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    57,115

    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You've never understood this, but being there doesn't make you right.
    Man, I watched this happen with my own eyes. We helped stand up the Iraqi local security forces, we worked with the Awakening, we helped to provide protection for the Sheikhs and their families.... furthermore (and this is what you ignore), local forces are part of Counterinsurgency Doctrine. It's as if part of our scheme of maneuver called for artillery fire, and you later claimed that shells landing in the exact right area and time during the assault had nothing to do with the fact that our Arty was shooting rounds.

    You bought in to the "the Surge has failed" crap coming out of Democrat leadership, and once dramatic empirical improvements became undeniable, you thrashed about for a straw to grasp rather than honestly admitting your analytical line was flawed. You think Iraq was bad policy - okay. That doesn't mean that we have to lose, Boo.

Page 69 of 82 FirstFirst ... 1959676869707179 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •