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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Worked? We refereed a civil war for a decade? What about that is working? For Iraqis, the Sunni Awakening help eased the violance more than anything else (there wasn't anything equvivlent in Afghanstan and that is the big difference). But, we gained next to nothing. We spent a lot for nothing.
    The Sunni Awakening happened because Sheikh Satar, a man I met and respected, knew we weren't going to bail on him. The Afghanis were made well aware that we were bailing on them 3 years before we were going to do it. If I'm an Afghani, I'm going to do what they are doing now. Just mark time until the Americans leave and make as few enemies as I can in the Taliban.
    Also, I would say the ally we have in Iraq is much more that what we will have in Afghanistan when we leave. Name one thing that President Obama can say when we leave there that is a positive. I can't think of any.




    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It is not the least bit questionable. This was one of my major problems with Bush. He tried to frame it as questionable. It isn't. And it doesn't matter who or how many try rationalize what we did. It was torture, and always has been considered torture.
    And while I don't think everythng I think should be stopped has stopped, it is important that we not try to justify evil. There is no gray. It is wrong.
    Have you been waterboarded? Have you even seen anyone waterboarded? By your logic, you don't even agree with stress positions correct? I hate to tell you this, but people don't tend to tell you what you need to know, when you need to know it, if you're nice to them. Sure, you whittle away someone's resolve by treating them well and being civil, but that takes months if not years. We don't have that time. I am of the mindset that if we would just leave these people alone, this stuff would go away. However, if our gov't is going to continue to engage in this crap, they should at least play to win. President Obama has tried to have his cake and eat it too. Doesn't work that way. Either fight or don't.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    The Sunni Awakening happened because Sheikh Satar, a man I met and respected, knew we weren't going to bail on him. The Afghanis were made well aware that we were bailing on them 3 years before we were going to do it. If I'm an Afghani, I'm going to do what they are doing now. Just mark time until the Americans leave and make as few enemies as I can in the Taliban.
    Also, I would say the ally we have in Iraq is much more that what we will have in Afghanistan when we leave. Name one thing that President Obama can say when we leave there that is a positive. I can't think of any.
    It really doesn't matter what his thinking was, it was his idea, they came up with it and they were willing to go in that direction. Without that, the outcome would have been very different. Bush ahd already bailed on the Afghanis long before Obama took office; in fact, it was Obama who brough the focus back to Afghanistan.

    There is very little positive about either country. Iraq is closer to Iran than they were before we came. Both see brutality to their people. Both have suffered a great deal. And neither offeres very much that helps us.



    Have you been waterboarded? Have you even seen anyone waterboarded? By your logic, you don't even agree with stress positions correct? I hate to tell you this, but people don't tend to tell you what you need to know, when you need to know it, if you're nice to them. Sure, you whittle away someone's resolve by treating them well and being civil, but that takes months if not years. We don't have that time. I am of the mindset that if we would just leave these people alone, this stuff would go away. However, if our gov't is going to continue to engage in this crap, they should at least play to win. President Obama has tried to have his cake and eat it too. Doesn't work that way. Either fight or don't.
    Waterboarding isn't new. And at least one person died while in a stress position. But the fact is waterboarding has always been considered torture, we, the US, have called it torture, and you can't erase that history because you now want to to excuse our behavior. BTW, torture is not very effective. And while these boards have been down this road many, many times, I still can show where we got misinformation that we used (al Libi) and no one has matched that with any information just as verifiable that we actually got from torture. Other methods have proven repeatedly to be more effective and just as fast. In Iraq, for example (read "The Gamble") we got better intel once we stopped the harsher treatment. So, my position is that your perception of what works is wrong.

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    This poll is not accurate. Libs who are not active duty personal or veterans voted. just like in the general election there is fraud here. Libs cannot win an election honestly just as they had to lie to come out on top of this poll.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    This poll is not accurate. Libs who are not active duty personal or veterans voted. just like in the general election there is fraud here. Libs cannot win an election honestly just as they had to lie to come out on top of this poll.
    Which people who voted in the poll are not vets or current military personnel? I changed the wording to fit the title since "active duty personal(sic)" excludes Guardsmen and Reservists.

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun View Post
    Which people who voted in the poll are not vets or current military personnel? I changed the wording to fit the title since "active duty personal(sic)" excludes Guardsmen and Reservists.
    I asked this question before and did not get an answer.

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    This poll is not accurate. Libs who are not active duty personal or veterans voted. just like in the general election there is fraud here. Libs cannot win an election honestly just as they had to lie to come out on top of this poll.
    I always laugh. I remember when Bush won against Kerry, Ohio reported a town where more people voted for bush than lived in the town. Those damned liberals!!!

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun View Post
    Which people who voted in the poll are not vets or current military personnel? I changed the wording to fit the title since "active duty personal(sic)" excludes Guardsmen and Reservists.

    By bad, although many National Guard and Reserve at this time are active. Also you can be active and a veteran at the same time. For instance an active duty soldier can be a Iraq war veteran. Anyway Boo voted, he is not a veteran.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I always laugh. I remember when Bush won against Kerry, Ohio reported a town where more people voted for bush than lived in the town. Those damned liberals!!!
    Funny I remember that happening in a lot of towns only it was people like ACORN who were stuffing the ballots for Kerry and here in Washington state we allow dead people and felons to vote if they vote democratic.............
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    By bad, although many National Guard and Reserve at this time are active. Also you can be active and a veteran at the same time. For instance an active duty soldier can be a Iraq war veteran. Anyway Boo voted, he is not a veteran.
    One vote does not justify the plural use of the word "lib" nor, out of 53 current total votes, does it constitute evidence of "Libs cannot win an election honestly just as they had to lie to come out on top of this poll." I'm new here and trying to understand the since of ethics, honesty and civility on this forum, so please forgive my questions.

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    By bad, although many National Guard and Reserve at this time are active. Also you can be active and a veteran at the same time. For instance an active duty soldier can be a Iraq war veteran. Anyway Boo voted, he is not a veteran.
    I am a veteran. I was in the 82nd. I thought everyone knew this.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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