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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    every conservative out there has his or her own definition of true conservative....
    and Obama might be the closest to a true liberal in a long time.
    I used to think that Libs tax and spend, or pay as you go.....hopefully spending only what is taken in from taxes.
    Likewise, I used to think the Cons want to borrow and spend, with no limit on spending as long as there are gullible people willing to lend us the money. Come to think of it, I think that is the way that both parties operate now.
    ok, great, how do you define a "true" conservative?
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    We shall see...He may have been a lot of those things when he was Governor in mass,
    Actions speak louder than words and Romney's actions say he is a lib.Any dumbass can can claim to be something.

    but like Hussein Obama he has evolved..............
    Funny how right around the time he decided he wanted to be president he 'evolved' into conservative.Don't you find that funny?


    No matter what you say he is our choice and is better then Hussein Obama by a country mile

    Considering Romney's past how is he better? Is he going to magically sign for bills he as a lib doesn't support and veto and bills that he as a lib supports? Is he going to magically appoint conservative justices when he as a lib wants liberal justices?
    .........Sadly I believe a true Conservative like Santorum can not be elected,.........
    So you admit that Romney is no conservative?
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, you can vote anyone on the ballot you want. And if you really like someone you should. But there isa certain reality attached to it even if we don't like it. And media didn't pick anyone.

    That is a load crap. A candidate is the front runner because the media says so. The media did pick these candidates.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    to keep beating the same dead horse, we have never elected a "true" conservative....not in the last 50 years, at least....
    I know what a conservative isn't. A conservative is not someone who pro-gay marriage, anti-2nd amendment, pro-abortion, pro-illegal immigration, pro-man made global warming fairy tale believer, pro-socialized medicine and someone who appoints gay and liberal judges like Mitt Romney has.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That is a load crap. A candidate is the front runner because the media says so. The media did pick these candidates.
    The candidate is the front runner because those with the big money want him to be the candidate.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The candidate is the front runner because those with the big money want him to be the candidate.
    Yep. Money controls it all. We get to choose between Obama and Obama-lite (Romney) as either will keep the huge federal nanny state largely intact and allow the well paid morons in DC to do as they are paid to. A strong leader is not a plus, as they may jump the "proper" chain of command and appeal directly to the sheeple. As long as federal spending exceeds federal tax revenue, outside money has more and more power, and the people have less and less power. Being in debt to your gov't is not freedom at all, as they may choose to call that debt due and payable anytime they feel like it.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep. Money controls it all. We get to choose between Obama and Obama-lite (Romney) as either will keep the huge federal nanny state largely intact and allow the well paid morons in DC to do as they are paid to. A strong leader is not a plus, as they may jump the "proper" chain of command and appeal directly to the sheeple. As long as federal spending exceeds federal tax revenue, outside money has more and more power, and the people have less and less power. Being in debt to your gov't is not freedom at all, as they may choose to call that debt due and payable anytime they feel like it.
    Don't know about you, but I'm going for the viable candidate that is getting the least money from the 1%.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Don't know about you, but I'm going for the viable candidate that is getting the least money from the 1%.
    I'm voting for the one least likely to remove more people from the taxpaying roles, and least likey to put more people onto the gov't entitlement roles, thus reducing my "fair share" share of the national debt and its rate of growth.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I'm voting for the one least likely to remove more people from the taxpaying roles, and least likey to put more people onto the gov't entitlement roles, thus reducing my "fair share" share of the national debt and its rate of growth.

    A Ron Paul man eh?
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Don't know about you, but I'm going for the viable candidate that is getting the least money from the 1%.
    So you were a McCain voter in 2008?

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