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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    The media and Campaign financing are the problems.

    I feel sorry for Americans only ever getting two choices every four years.

    For a country that continually boasts and prides itself in the "Choices" it offers, there's little choice when it comes to elections in the US.

    From what I understand France forbids political advertising and requires that all media outlets give equal story time to all candidates.Something like this would require a change to our constitution in order for it be constitutional in the US. I think the better solution would be to ban party affiliation on ballots and post a short list of issues a candidate supports and if possible a short list of past votes and quotes on ballots and on the voting booth walls a more thorough list of issues and past votes and quotes. In polling places that have an extremely high voter turn out making a pamphlet that could be passed out to the voters waiting in line should also be done. This would encourage people to actually vote on the candidate and not the party. This would curtail the party-tards.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It all boils down to what the chocies are. You can't vote for who isn't really a choice.
    There are lots of choices.There were other republican primary candidates and there are 3rd party candidates currently running for president. Too many people buy into the nonsense spewed from party tards that you got to for democrat or republican or you'll just be throwing your vote away. These party-tards would have you believe that voting for a media picked candidate that you ideologically the opposite off and can't stand is not throwing away your vote, while voting for a candidate you genuinely believe is the right person for the job regardless if that candidate is a 3rd party or a media ignored democrat or republican is somehow throwing away your vote.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You are voting for a pro-gay marriage,anti-2nd amendment, pro-abortion,pro-illegal immigration, pro-man made global warming fairy tale believer and pro-socialized medicine liberal who appoints gay and liberal judges and you have the gall or audacity to call me a Koolaid drinking liberal? Die hard party-tards like you would vote for Obama if he had a R next to his. Die hard party-tards like you would vote for the biggest socialist or communist on the planet just as long as he or she had a R next to his name and the media told you that candidate is the front runner.You have no business calling yourself a conservative for voting for a known liberal like Romney.
    We shall see...He may have been a lot of those things when he was Governor in mass, but like Hussein Obama he has evolved..............No matter what you say he is our choice and is better then Hussein Obama by a country mile.........Sadly I believe a true Conservative like Santorum can not be elected,.........
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    We shall see...He may have been a lot of those things when he was Governor in mass, but like Hussein Obama he has evolved..............No matter what you say he is our choice and is better then Hussein Obama by a country mile.........Sadly I believe a true Conservative like Santorum can not be elected,.........
    to keep beating the same dead horse, we have never elected a "true" conservative....not in the last 50 years, at least....
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    to keep beating the same dead horse, we have never elected a "true" conservative....not in the last 50 years, at least....
    Are they the ones that used to believe in conservation of our natural resources?
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    There are lots of choices.There were other republican primary candidates and there are 3rd party candidates currently running for president. Too many people buy into the nonsense spewed from party tards that you got to for democrat or republican or you'll just be throwing your vote away. These party-tards would have you believe that voting for a media picked candidate that you ideologically the opposite off and can't stand is not throwing away your vote, while voting for a candidate you genuinely believe is the right person for the job regardless if that candidate is a 3rd party or a media ignored democrat or republican is somehow throwing away your vote.
    No, you can vote anyone on the ballot you want. And if you really like someone you should. But there isa certain reality attached to it even if we don't like it. And media didn't pick anyone. It is merely the didnt have the support or money to garner larger support. We really have to get beyond making excuses for those who under perform.

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    to keep beating the same dead horse, we have never elected a "true" conservative....not in the last 50 years, at least....
    How would you define a "true" conservative? And, have we elected a "true" liberal in the last 50 years?
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Are they the ones that used to believe in conservation of our natural resources?
    not sure, so many of today's conservatives seem to think we should wait until we are running out of the oil that is cheap, easy to get, easy to refine, and THEN conserve. That is what will likely happen, since the expensive, hard to get, hard to refine oil will cost so much that we will conserve based on the price of gas at the pump.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    How would you define a "true" conservative? And, have we elected a "true" liberal in the last 50 years?
    every conservative out there has his or her own definition of true conservative....
    and Obama might be the closest to a true liberal in a long time.
    I used to think that Libs tax and spend, or pay as you go.....hopefully spending only what is taken in from taxes.
    Likewise, I used to think the Cons want to borrow and spend, with no limit on spending as long as there are gullible people willing to lend us the money. Come to think of it, I think that is the way that both parties operate now.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    every conservative out there has his or her own definition of true conservative....
    and Obama might be the closest to a true liberal in a long time.
    I used to think that Libs tax and spend, or pay as you go.....hopefully spending only what is taken in from taxes.
    Likewise, I used to think the Cons want to borrow and spend, with no limit on spending as long as there are gullible people willing to lend us the money. Come to think of it, I think that is the way that both parties operate now.
    Both spend, a lot. And when you have to pledge not to raise taxes, and we're going to spend regardless of party, borrowing is what is left.

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