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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Because the blame isn't equal. Bush was the sole decider. He presented an incomplete case to congress. And play lose with the facts. Trying to skate around that by include democrats is a cheat.
    President Bush was capable of ordering military action. However, he is not capable of funding said action. That is the job of the Congress. And Congress' both GOP and Dem controlled failed to stop funding the war. Therefore, they are just as to blame as President Bush is. Simple as that. No money=no war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That wasn't the mission. The mission was to get a new government installed that would agree to a new oil law that would allow big oil back in Iraq again after 35 years of exile. No one expected the Iraqis to fight against us for so long.
    Do you have proof of that or is it more partisan hyperbole from the master of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What military infrastructure was left after the Persian Gulf war??? The first thing the troops were ordered to do was secure the oil facilities.
    There was plenty of military infrastructure left actually. I was there. And we weren't sent to the oil fields first. We were sent to Safwan Hill first. Then we secured the Rumalyah Oilfields. Why? BECAUSE IT WAS THE NEXT PIECE OF EARTH BETWEEN US AND BAGHDAD!! Once we secured it, we left it in place. There was no guard force or anything of the sort. You can cite whatever "source" you want on that but I was present for those actions and I know what I and the rest of Regimental Combat Teams 1 and 7 did.
    As far as military infrastructure. There was Al Taqqadam airfield/Habbiniyah Airfield and Ammunition Supply Point/Basra Airfield/Rustimeyah Military Academy/Baghdad International Airport/Ministry of Defense building, I could keep going and going. Once again, your statements are factually incorrect.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Do you have proof of that or is it more partisan hyperbole from the master of it?
    Whats funny about those "this war is for oil" anti-war crowd is the fact almost everyone of them has the nerve to mock birthers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    We were? Funny, I was there.
    So was I bro. I don't even know why I'm still debating Catawba, who claims to be anti-war yet votes for President Obama AGAIN. But, guess I'll go with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Whats funny about those "this war is for oil" anti-war crowd is the fact almost everyone of them has the nerve to mock birthers.
    Or that they vote for pro-war President Obama. Or that they drive a oil burning vehicle. Or that they don't mock Romney birthers. I could keep going.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Do you have proof of that or is it more partisan hyperbole from the master of it?
    Yes, the recommendation for Iraqi military intervention 2 years before our invasion:
    STRATEGIC ENERGY POLICY CHALLENGES

    And the total lack of any other credible reason.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    There was plenty of military infrastructure left actually. I was there. And we weren't sent to the oil fields first. We were sent to Safwan Hill first. Then we secured the Rumalyah Oilfields. Why? BECAUSE IT WAS THE NEXT PIECE OF EARTH BETWEEN US AND BAGHDAD!! Once we secured it, we left it in place. There was no guard force or anything of the sort. You can cite whatever "source" you want on that but I was present for those actions and I know what I and the rest of Regimental Combat Teams 1 and 7 did.
    As far as military infrastructure. There was Al Taqqadam airfield/Habbiniyah Airfield and Ammunition Supply Point/Basra Airfield/Rustimeyah Military Academy/Baghdad International Airport/Ministry of Defense building, I could keep going and going. Once again, your statements are factually incorrect.

    They are the statements by the Commander and Chief at the time, not mine.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, the recommendation for Iraqi military intervention 2 years before our invasion:
    STRATEGIC ENERGY POLICY CHALLENGES

    And the total lack of any other credible reason.
    WHAT THE HECK IS THAT CRAP?! Seriously bro. Admit it. You pulled that from the National Enquirer didn't you.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    They are the statements by the Commander and Chief at the time, not mine.
    You either believe President Bush or you don't. Choose which one it is man.
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