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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Excerpts from Mitt Romney on war and peace:

    It was the right decision to go into Iraq

    "It was the right decision to go into Iraq. I supported it at the time; I support it now. It was not well managed in after the takedown of Saddam Hussein and his military. That was done brilliantly, an extraordinary success. But in the years that followed, we were undermanaged, underprepared, underplanned, understaffed, and then we come into the phase that we have now. The plan that Bush and General Petraeus put together is working. Itís changing lives there. Perhaps most importantly, itís making sure that al Qaeda and no other group like them is becoming a superpower, if you will, in the communities, and having a safe haven from which they launch attacks against us. Itís critical for us. The most important issue is what do we do now, and their just run and retreat regardless of the consequences is going to be a real problem for them when they face a debate with a Republican on the stage."

    Source: 2008 GOP debate in Boca Raton Florida , Jan 24, 2008


    Leave Afghanistan when generals on the ground say so

    "Q: [to Huntsman]: What is the earliest you think our 90,000 troops in Afghanistan should be brought home?

    HUNTSMAN: The end of 2013.

    ROMNEY: Well, we want to bring our troops home as soon as we possibly can. The commanders are saying they think 2014 is a better date. If I'm president, I will inform myself based upon the experience of the people on the ground that are leading our effort there. I want to make sure that we hand off the responsibility to an Afghan security force that is capable of maintaining the sovereignty of their nation from the Taliban. I don't want to do something that would put in jeopardy the hard earned success which we've had there. And I would bring our troops home as soon as we possibly can, of course, based upon my own experience there, informing myself of what's happening there and listening to the commanders on the ground.

    HUNTSMAN: We also deferred to the commanders on the ground in about 1967, during the Vietnam War, and we didn't get very good advice then."

    Source: WMUR 2012 GOP New Hampshire debate , Jan 7, 2012



    "Q: Osama bin Laden is dead. We've been in Afghanistan for ten years. Isn't it time to bring our combat troops home from Afghanistan?

    ROMNEY: It's time for us to bring our troops home as soon as we possibly can, consistent with the word that comes to our generals that we can hand the country over to the Afghan military to defend themselves from the Taliban. I think we've learned some important lessons in our experience in Afghanistan. I want those troops to come home based upon not politics, not based upon economics, but instead based upon the conditions on the ground determined by the generals. But I also think we've learned that our troops shouldn't go off and try and fight a war of independence for another nation. Only the Afghanis can win Afghanistan's independence from the Taliban.

    Q: Congressman Paul, do you agree with that decision?

    PAUL: Not quite. I make the decisions. I tell the generals what to do. I'd bring them home as quickly as possible."

    Source: 2011 GOP primary debate in Manchester NH , Jun 13, 2011


    "It was the right decision to go into Iraq

    It was the right decision to go into Iraq. I supported it at the time; I support it now. It was not well managed in after the takedown of Saddam Hussein and his military. That was done brilliantly, an extraordinary success. But in the years that followed, we were undermanaged, underprepared, underplanned, understaffed, and then we come into the phase that we have now. The plan that Bush and General Petraeus put together is working. Itís changing lives there. Perhaps most importantly, itís making sure that al Qaeda and no other group like them is becoming a superpower, if you will, in the communities, and having a safe haven from which they launch attacks against us. Itís critical for us. The most important issue is what do we do now, and their just run and retreat regardless of the consequences is going to be a real problem for them when they face a debate with a Republican on the stage.

    Source: 2008 GOP debate in Boca Raton Florida , Jan 24, 2008

    Mitt Romney on War & Peace
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    And my blaming the Dems is right as well. So why waste the bandwidth with this post? Does the lookout in the robbery not go to jail too if he shares in the spoils?
    Because the blame isn't equal. Bush was the sole decider. He presented an incomplete case to congress. And play lose with the facts. Trying to skate around that by include democrats is a cheat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Because the blame isn't equal. Bush was the sole decider. He presented an incomplete case to congress. And play lose with the facts. Trying to skate around that by include democrats is a cheat.

    IOW...as usual...ad infinitum.... IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT
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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    IOW...as usual...ad infinitum.... IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT
    Iraq is. There is no honest way around that.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    IOW...as usual...ad infinitum.... IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT
    Not entirely Bush....his handler Cheney spoon fed him the "deficits don't matter" pablum.
    Only an idiot thinks we can lower taxes and start wars at the same time without serious damage to the economy, and congress was, and is, full of willful idiots....
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Not entirely Bush....his handler Cheney spoon fed him the "deficits don't matter" pablum.
    Only an idiot thinks we can lower taxes and start wars at the same time without serious damage to the economy, and congress was, and is, full of willful idiots....
    there is plenty of blame to go around for Iraq. only an idiot (or rabid partisan hack) truly believes that it was all Bush's fault
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    Thank God we went into Iraq.......We killed a vicious dictator and his 2 sons that murdered hundred of thousands of his own people........Truth be told at the time everyone wanted to take him out.....Everyone thought he had WMD..........Its easy to sit back and be a Monday Morning QB. At least we have a republic based government there and given them a chance............We also don't have to worry about that country being a rogue nation .......I mourn the people we lost there with my whole heart but sadly in a war people die...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Thank God we went into Iraq.......We killed a vicious dictator and his 2 sons that murdered hundred of thousands of his own people........Truth be told at the time everyone wanted to take him out.....Everyone thought he had WMD..........Its easy to sit back and be a Monday Morning QB. At least we have a republic based government there and given them a chance............We also don't have to worry about that country being a rogue nation .......I mourn the people we lost there with my whole heart but sadly in a war people die...........
    my problem with Iraq is not that we went, it was that we stayed too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    my problem with Iraq is not that we went, it was that we stayed too long.
    It wasn't easy, no one thought that the Iraqi mititary was so bad...........We finished the job and gave the Iraqis a chance........I am a Vietnam Vet and thank God we did not cut and run like we did there.......We would have probably had to go back in 5 years and finish the job.....
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    my problem with Iraq is not that we went, it was that we stayed too long.
    I think the biggest problem is that we went. Once we went, the damage was done. There was no easy or even profitable way to exit.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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