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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Military healthcare does not suck. I've used them for years and never really had an issue with the healthcare itself. Hell, the military offered to pay for me to get a nose job because my broken nose was due to a faulty piece of equipment.

    This is particularly true when you are talking about the healthcare the dependents use and not just what the military itself gets.
    And for every story about Oh They Offered To Pay For My Nose, I know one (or three) like one of my friends who had a simple fracture in his ankle.... and who two years and 5 surgeries later after the docs had repeatedly accidentally re-shattered the bone had to have a 6th surgery to pull the now brand new shin bone out (yeah, they ended up screwing him up so bad they had to replace the shinbone) with an artificial one because they hadn't realized before they put it in that the shinbone wasn't physically capable of carrying the guy around.

    Or a guy I went through Bootcamp, School of Infantry, and shipped to the same company with who was told that his consistent breathing issues and blood in his mucus was probably some recurrent URI, so don't worry about it, only to be emergency medevac'd out of Mojave Viper to get his ribs cracked because oops, turns out your chest was actually rotting and now you are basically an asthmatic cripple for the rest of your life here's your oxygen tube and MedSep paperwork. That guys life was all downhill after that - he drove his car head-first into a semi at a combined speed of about 140 miles an hour 6 months later while we were in Iraq.

    Maybe it's because you're navy. We've always heard that we get kicked your worst and newest docs.

    As for Dependents - for two years I had to battle TRICARE to get them to pay for my sons' birth. Turns out that just because a woman is on a marriage certificate with you and is listed as the mother of your child doesn't actually necessarily mean that they will consider her your "wife". After all, her father is a retiree... so... see... she's already "in the system" as having had TRICARE as a secondary so... I mean... she's already in the system, you know, as a secondary and... well, I mean, everyone knows it's impossible for a woman to be one military members' daughter and another military members' wife.

    Oh, and then after they finally admitted that okay she was my wife, they accused me of fraud because the Hospital had billed them for a child called "Baby [my last name]", and I didn't have a child actually named "Baby [my last name]" registered in DEERS.

    F'ing idiots. I had to get counseled on why it's bad to threaten to set people's cars on fire with them locked inside.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    And for every story about Oh They Offered To Pay For My Nose, I know one (or three) like one of my friends who had a simple fracture in his ankle.... and who two years and 5 surgeries later after the docs had repeatedly accidentally re-shattered the bone had to have a 6th surgery to pull the now brand new shin bone out (yeah, they ended up screwing him up so bad they had to replace the shinbone) with an artificial one because they hadn't realized before they put it in that the shinbone wasn't physically capable of carrying the guy around.

    Or a guy I went through Bootcamp, School of Infantry, and shipped to the same company with who was told that his consistent breathing issues and blood in his mucus was probably some recurrent URI, so don't worry about it, only to be emergency medevac'd out of Mojave Viper to get his ribs cracked because oops, turns out your chest was actually rotting and now you are basically an asthmatic cripple for the rest of your life here's your oxygen tube and MedSep paperwork. That guys life was all downhill after that - he drove his car head-first into a semi at a combined speed of about 140 miles an hour 6 months later while we were in Iraq.

    Maybe it's because you're navy. We've always heard that we get kicked your worst and newest docs.

    As for Dependents - for two years I had to battle TRICARE to get them to pay for my sons' birth. Turns out that just because a woman is on a marriage certificate with you and is listed as the mother of your child doesn't actually necessarily mean that they will consider her your "wife". After all, her father is a retiree... so... see... she's already "in the system" as having had TRICARE as a secondary so... I mean... she's already in the system, you know, as a secondary and... well, I mean, everyone knows it's impossible for a woman to be one military members' daughter and another military members' wife.

    Oh, and then after they finally admitted that okay she was my wife, they accused me of fraud because the Hospital had billed them for a child called "Baby [my last name]", and I didn't have a child actually named "Baby [my last name]" registered in DEERS.

    F'ing idiots. I had to get counseled on why it's bad to threaten to set people's cars on fire with them locked inside.
    I have a completely different view on this. Very few people I have known have really had the issues you have, at least not more than they show up in other programs. Do you really think you would have any less problems with civilian insurance plans? They are all about making money. I have had family members have problems with civilian companies paying for all kinds of things. And I have seen other people have very few problems with actually getting what they need done under the military.

    There are health insurance plans out there that require a mother to inform them immediately when she goes into labor/the hospital or she gets financially penalized. Some plans have an annual limit on how much medical costs they will pay for.

    Now, Marines do have issues with their docs sometimes, but I'm pretty sure it generally has more to do with horrible policies that are trying to prevent losing people to medical reasons instead of a bad overall system. Some of the policies are wrong. That doesn't make the whole program bad. It works for the majority of people.

    Plus, how would you change the program that would work for the military and be similar to a civilian run program? Do you have any suggestions or just complaints?
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I dunno, Okinawa is hardly a small underfunded hole in the wall post, and some of the crap I've heard coming out of the hospital here is atrocious. We had a friend have a baby here - they didn't even put her in a room with air conditioning. In the middle of the F'ing summer. On a tropical F'ing island.
    Damn, sorry to hear that. We had a clerk in K-16 that constantly had problems with getting proper medical care during her pregnancy. I guess the military hates babies, or something. Thankfully her kid came out ok. The VA in Galveston is terrible, also. I went in shortly after ETS to get my ankle and other issues documented. On the third or fourth appointment, they prescribed me antidepressants (I like to research medications I know nothing about) a condition that has absolutely nothing to do with clinical depression... after I had stated to the shrink that antidepressants tend to make me very suicidal. Needless to say, they're ****ing fired.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Neither because both are warmongers that will send me to fight another useless war. I've already fought in 3 different theaters and I'm sick of doing it. My wife's kinda tired of it as well. You know, with me being married 10 years and only being home for 3 1/2 years of it and all. That kinda wears on a lady. My son doesn't like it either. You know, with him being 6 and me having been here for 2 years of his life. It also sucks that I spontaneously lose hearing for days at a time, can't put my head back and close my eyes without waking up on the floor, have a constant ringing in my ears, and tend to have spells where the room turns upside down and I hit the floor. But you neo-cons and lib-militants go ahead and tell me why I should vote for your guy. I'd love to hear from you.
    If either of them can prove to me what risk to national defense Afghanistan, Syria, North Korea, Iran, or whatever hole they want to send me to is, then I will check the box in that category of their being personally vetted by me. I still wouldn't vote for either after that, but I think we're speaking strictly military related stuff here so I won't bring that stuff up. Until then, Ron Paul's getting a write in vote from me.
    I understand and support your sentiments MT, but what war has Obama started that you have served in? Actually, he ended one of the wars started by the last administration and has laid out a plan to end the remaining war.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I understand and support your sentiments MT, but what war has Obama started that you have served in? Actually, he ended one of the wars started by the last administration and has laid out a plan to end the remaining war.
    Pretty sure he's talking about Obama committing our forces to NATO in support of Libyan insurgents.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Pretty sure he's talking about Obama committing our forces to NATO in support of Libyan insurgents.
    MT served in the brief NATO mission in Libya???
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I understand and support your sentiments MT, but what war has Obama started that you have served in? Actually, he ended one of the wars started by the last administration and has laid out a plan to end the remaining war.
    What? How dare he end a war?
    I think it is obvious that if we aren't wasting money overseas on wars, we can probably afford to waste some money at home on domestic needs....
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    MT served in the brief NATO mission in Libya???
    Since he's a Marine, and not an Airman, I'm going to say no. He stated that Obama is a war monger, just like the rest. I'm assuming that he's using Libya as an example of his war mongery.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Well as far as 'conservative' warmongers of late are concerned President Obama's Libyan efforts fall way short of what America measures as a war. I remember the right demanding more than just jets, while other's in the GOP were outraged we had planes involved.

    No, no self respecting warhawk would call Libya warmongering.

    We have to have standards...

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Well as far as 'conservative' warmongers of late are concerned President Obama's Libyan efforts fall way short of what America measures as a war. I remember the right demanding more than just jets, while other's in the GOP were outraged we had planes involved.

    No, no self respecting warhawk would call Libya warmongering.

    We have to have standards...
    Nobody said **** about liberal vs conservative. War is war, regardless of who wages it.
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