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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Others have said it is great. Which one is it?
    I have seen some bad, but mostly good....during my active duty days with military docs, and after with VA docs.
    a friend from my GTMO days had a back issue, the navy docs didn't do much early on, LSS he is now in a wheelchair, after they finally removed the tumor that was causing his issues. It was an Air Force doc he saw on leave that did the correct diagnosis...
    Another friend had about everything you can imagine, he was quite the survivor....cancer, artery issues, heart issues, etc. and finally pancreatic cancer, and even then he lasted another year...the VA took good care of him.
    It helps to be persistent, and perhaps to go to a civilian doctor at your own expense if your life depends on it...at least for the diagnosis.
    Sad thing for some vets, and retirees, there was a time that they were denied their promised "healthcare for life". My older brother, 8 years older, had to file bankruptcy after being denied care for him and his wife. In one year they spent far more on civilain docs than they could ever pay for. He was retired Air Force at the time. IIRC, it took a supreme court deliberation to get congress to stop mistreating our vets...
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am a liberal. I support a strong military. NPs head just exploded.
    I'm a liberal and I support a strong military too. * I just don't support the US spending almost as much as the rest of the world combined.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And I was wondering when and where your experience happened? From what I have seen military medical has been improving greatly in the last decade or so, particularly when we our here in this country.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I have seen some bad, but mostly good....during my active duty days with military docs, and after with VA docs.
    a friend from my GTMO days had a back issue, the navy docs didn't do much early on, LSS he is now in a wheelchair, after they finally removed the tumor that was causing his issues. It was an Air Force doc he saw on leave that did the correct diagnosis...
    Another friend had about everything you can imagine, he was quite the survivor....cancer, artery issues, heart issues, etc. and finally pancreatic cancer, and even then he lasted another year...the VA took good care of him.
    It helps to be persistent, and perhaps to go to a civilian doctor at your own expense if your life depends on it...at least for the diagnosis.
    Sad thing for some vets, and retirees, there was a time that they were denied their promised "healthcare for life". My older brother, 8 years older, had to file bankruptcy after being denied care for him and his wife. In one year they spent far more on civilain docs than they could ever pay for. He was retired Air Force at the time. IIRC, it took a supreme court deliberation to get congress to stop mistreating our vets...
    I worked at Womack Army Hospital for a time. It was pretty good. The VA in Iowa City had issues, but largely decent. However, that's a pretty limited pool and I saw it as someone working there. I've never worked anywhere that didn't have complaints, or that I didn't actually see a few issues.

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    The one where I have to wear an ankle brace for the rest of my life because I wasn't allowed to get x rays, due to terrible medical practice from the only PA on post, no doctor, just a PA, with no oversight, tasked with caring for an entire battalion, and three detached companies.
    Best medical mind I ever worked with was a PA.

    Worse Doctor I ever worked with was at U of I hospitals and Clinics.

    Biggest asshole was at Mercy Hopsital in Iowa City.

    Of the three, I'd only let the PA touch me. Glad I have more than those three choices, even at the VA.

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Depends on your experience. I don't think it's bad at all. This Post-9/11 generation is benefitting greatly from the Vietnam generation that was screwed royally and since they largely run the programs today. That generation is taking care of this one. The only thing that is a pain in the ass is the bureacracy of getting it sometimes (long lines, waiting times on phones, paperwork, etc). There's also the generic brand medications, but considering that it's free it's a good deal.

    The way I see it (different generation) I voluntarily signed a contract and I was paid every two weeks for twenty years for the privelege. The VA is busting its ass to make sure the government comes through with its repercusion obligations. And while something like PTSD (as an example) was never on a contract, the soldier shooting up a market store makes it a government obligation to community as well. But I don't expect my diapers to be changed. That's what marriage is for.
    Off topic. You made me think of my father in law. Before he died, he took care of his wife, my mother in law, through her dementia. He not only cared for her needs, but always helped her look nice, even putitng on her make up. He was incredible as a spouse care giver. Both are dead now, but the man was special on that front.

    As for your post, I see things rather similarly.

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Neither because both are warmongers that will send me to fight another useless war. I've already fought in 3 different theaters and I'm sick of doing it. My wife's kinda tired of it as well. You know, with me being married 10 years and only being home for 3 1/2 years of it and all. That kinda wears on a lady. My son doesn't like it either. You know, with him being 6 and me having been here for 2 years of his life. It also sucks that I spontaneously lose hearing for days at a time, can't put my head back and close my eyes without waking up on the floor, have a constant ringing in my ears, and tend to have spells where the room turns upside down and I hit the floor. But you neo-cons and lib-militants go ahead and tell me why I should vote for your guy. I'd love to hear from you.
    If either of them can prove to me what risk to national defense Afghanistan, Syria, North Korea, Iran, or whatever hole they want to send me to is, then I will check the box in that category of their being personally vetted by me. I still wouldn't vote for either after that, but I think we're speaking strictly military related stuff here so I won't bring that stuff up. Until then, Ron Paul's getting a write in vote from me.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Best medical mind I ever worked with was a PA.

    Worse Doctor I ever worked with was at U of I hospitals and Clinics.

    Biggest asshole was at Mercy Hopsital in Iowa City.

    Of the three, I'd only let the PA touch me. Glad I have more than those three choices, even at the VA.
    This guy was a moron. Army medical is good, as long as you're stationed at a large post, with a big budget. If you're stuck on a small, underfunded, hole in the wall post, you also get stuck with bottom of the barrel medical care.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    If either of them can prove to me what risk to national defense Afghanistan, Syria, North Korea, Iran, or whatever hole they want to send me to is, then I will check the box in that category of their being personally vetted by me. I still wouldn't vote for either after that, but I think we're speaking strictly military related stuff here so I won't bring that stuff up. Until then, Ron Paul's getting a write in vote from me.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    This guy was a moron. Army medical is good, as long as you're stationed at a large post, with a big budget. If you're stuck on a small, underfunded, hole in the wall post, you also get stuck with bottom of the barrel medical care.
    I dunno, Okinawa is hardly a small underfunded hole in the wall post, and some of the crap I've heard coming out of the hospital here is atrocious. We had a friend have a baby here - they didn't even put her in a room with air conditioning. In the middle of the F'ing summer. On a tropical F'ing island.

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