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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    People believe that only because they want to; and that's created this unfair and imbalanced system of binary opposites. It's ridiculous. Don't go with them - if enough people didn't chose them then they wouldn't be the only viable two
    umm no..I disagree that would only accomplish a handful of voters choosing who is going to be my president...low voter turnout will do nothing to change the two party system.

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Obama, Unless christie is picked as VP. I am hedging my bets for a Christie run.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    People believe that only because they want to; and that's created this unfair and imbalanced system of binary opposites. It's ridiculous. Don't go with them - if enough people didn't chose them then they wouldn't be the only viable two
    It's a lot more complicated than that. Our electoral system perpetuates a two-party system. I posted this last week, which was a column in the WaPo explaining just why the third-party dream is a lot more difficult to achieve than some people think it is.

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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Obama, Unless christie is picked as VP. I am hedging my bets for a Christie run.
    lol I did not see this coming.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I don't know yet. . . not Obama - and not Romney. . . they both suck.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    People believe that only because they want to; and that's created this unfair and imbalanced system of binary opposites. It's ridiculous. Don't go with them - if enough people didn't chose them then they wouldn't be the only viable two
    Thank You! I agree 1000% with you on this.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    umm no..I disagree that would only accomplish a handful of voters choosing who is going to be my president...low voter turnout will do nothing to change the two party system.
    I tend to agree with both you to in part. While I think the idea that both are crappy has a lot to do with the silly demonizing that goes on and tends to limit the pool. However, the two parties are closer to being one party than opposing parties. We could use clear differences, and then to argue the ACTUAL merits and weaknesses of thses differences, so a few more voices that could be heard and respected enough to listen to would not be a bad idea. Be we as a people have to change a lot before that is to ever be possibile.

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I didn't know you served AS, which branch?
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
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    For my money, that qualifies!

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Obama, Unless christie is picked as VP. I am hedging my bets for a Christie run.
    He aint runnin his heart cant carry that much chit around for 4 more years

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