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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    You make a choice, halt the depletion of brain cells or become a lifer.
    I am proud of my 21 years military service and sorry you are not..........
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Try serving on 2 WW2 destroyers that were built in 4 months and for only one thing...........Take take a topedo that might be headed for a bird farm.........
    Haynsworth, DD700, while a reservist still in High School....
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    You make a choice, halt the depletion of brain cells or become a lifer.
    Brains are needed to be a nuke, not so much a ships serviceman....sorry, NP, but nukes can make a LOT of money in the civilian world. I did...
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Another lefty who believes that retired military should not have any benefits............
    Nope. Actually we believe that you're a hypocrite.

    By the way, she served but did not retire.........Imagine that............
    Ever heard of an honorable discharge? That happens sometimes. It's very imaginable.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I remember during the first gulf war. we got pissed when a Saudi was interviewed and asked if he did not feel an obligation to help defend Sudi Arabia with the Americans, and he said why should he do it when they could pay Americans to do it.
    In my era, I saw a lot of young vietnamese men not fighting, wondered why.....
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Why ain't we talking about cutting these other wasteful agencies? Why is it always the military they want to cut.........I will tell you why because the military can't fight back........they work for the clowns that want to cut them in Congress........Congress can't cut people like the EPA<NEA and PP because those agencies have congress in their back pockets............

    I don't know who your voting for but I beleive you said you get TRICARE and MEDICARE well Hussein Obama wants that...........If he gets reelected and Obamacare goes through you can expect huge premium increases and no COLAS....The only reason that he gave us a raise this year is because its and election year.......
    we ARE talking about other agencies, read ALL my posts before responding, and also consider watching some news on TV, other than Fox....
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The Ford class carrier is going to be the all out ****! From everything I have read on it, it really is going to be a huge upgrade over the Nimitz, with almost a thousand fewer crew but able to do more.
    From everything I was hearing while in, if true, they were supposed to be taking suggestions from the actual people working the systems on what to improve on and what currently did work well for them. Hopefully they actually did listen to them.

    And from my knowledge and on what I worked with it sounds pretty awesome. Hopefully it will be as good as it sounds.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Another lefty who believes that retired military should not have any benefits............By the way, she served but did not retire.........Imagine that............
    smart enough to get out and make the big bucks, she is.....
    Yoda approves....
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Did you even read my post? I acknowledged that there is waste in all agencies of the Gov, but don't take it out on the backs of our active duty personnel or our vets......everythingthing Hussein Obama does is against the military.......Cost of living goes up and we don't get a cola for 3 years while employees in the WH get huge raises...Where is your outrage against them???? There is a call in the Hussein Obama administration to cut retirements in the military to 15 years or even do away with the present retirement system and let you retire after 20 years but you get no pension until age 60.........They also want to raise the premiums on tricare.........

    I am really surprised that you as a vet would take the Hussein Obama side on this issue....I would be willing to bet your husband would not agree with you on this one...........

    Make cuts, yes but not a trillion dollars........Even Panetta, Hussein Obama right hand man is against that..........

    I apologize for any missspelling but I am fighting the good fight against several Libs on various threads at the moment...........
    All politicians are to blame for our current cuts in personnel, pay, and compensations, not just Obama. That is why I don't just blame him. Hell, much of it does rest on the backs of the military brass, since they could actually listen to their people and make assessments on what is actually being wasted and fix those things instead of just cutting spending on personnel. The President has very little say in exactly how our military budget is used, that would be military brass and Congress.
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    Re: For Veterans and Military personnel only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Did you even read my post? I acknowledged that there is waste in all agencies of the Gov, but don't take it out on the backs of our active duty personnel or our vets......everythingthing Hussein Obama does is against the military.......Cost of living goes up and we don't get a cola for 3 years while employees in the WH get huge raises...Where is your outrage against them???? There is a call in the Hussein Obama administration to cut retirements in the military to 15 years or even do away with the present retirement system and let you retire after 20 years but you get no pension until age 60.........They also want to raise the premiums on tricare.........

    I am really surprised that you as a vet would take the Hussein Obama side on this issue....I would be willing to bet your husband would not agree with you on this one...........

    Make cuts, yes but not a trillion dollars........Even Panetta, Hussein Obama right hand man is against that..........

    I apologize for any missspelling but I am fighting the good fight against several Libs on various threads at the moment...........
    Obviously you are part of the National Brain Trust. I read your posts and read your sig and I can't make it all work. You, naturally, have the answer to these things. How is it that we fund the hell out of current wars that we can't afford, replenish our current depleted and war ravaged materiel, not to mention upgrades, pay for the massive veteran's benefits incurred by constant warfare, pay for more and more foreign bases as a consequence of empire building, buy off the heads of government and military in an ever increasing number of nations, pay of the all the upbringing and education of unwanted babies and not raise taxes.

    NOTE: I am not making value judgements nor do I wish to divert the thread into such discussion. My point is we cannot afford MOST of what you advocate. How is it that you can be a militarist, a capitalist, a socialist and an advocate of empire and theocrat all at the same time. Show me the money.










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